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Date:   Wed, 8 Feb 2023 17:10:05 +0200
From:   Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@...asonboard.com>
To:     Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...el.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/7] media: i2c: add DS90UB960 driver

On 27/01/2023 11:15, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 10:24:04AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> On 26/01/2023 12:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 12:21:06PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:41:47AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>>>>> On 25/01/2023 17:27, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>>>>>> But I probably don't understand the ATR structure and what exactly we need to
>>>>>> pass to it, perhaps it also can be replaced with properties (note, that we have
>>>>>> some interesting ones that called references, which is an alternative to DT
>>>>>> phandle).
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe this needs a Linux bus implementation. I'm not that familiar
>>>>> with implementing a bus, but I think that would make it easier to share data
>>>>> between the deserializer and the serializer. A bus sounds a bit like an
>>>>> overkill for a 1-to-1 connection, used by a few drivers, but maybe it
>>>>> wouldn't be too much code.
>>>>
>>>> Have you looked at auxiliary bus (appeared a few releases ago in kernel)?
>>>
>>> As far as I understand, the auxiliary bus infrastructure is meant for
>>> use cases where a single hardware device needs to be split into multiple
>>> logical devices (as in struct device). Platform devices were
>>> historically (ab)used for this, and the auxiliary bus is meant as a
>>> cleaner solution. I'm not sure if it would be a good match here, or if
>>> it would be considered an abuse of the auxiliary bus API.
>>
>> The aux bus docs say "A key requirement for utilizing the auxiliary bus is
>> that there is no dependency on a physical bus, device, register accesses or
>> regmap support. These individual devices split from the core cannot live on
>> the platform bus as they are not physical devices that are controlled by
>> DT/ACPI.", which doesn't sound like a good fit.
> 
> Thanks for checking!
> 
>> The deserializer and serializers are currently independent devices and
>> drivers (the pdata is the only shared thing), but I think we may need
>> something better here. The devices are more tightly tied together than
>> "normal" video devices, in my opinion, as the serializer is fully controlled
>> by the deserializer (including power).
>>
>> And if we ever want to implement something like power management, we
>> probably need something more than what we have now. Although I don't know
>> how that would be done, as all the peripherals behind the serializer would
>> also lose power...
> 
> I believe you have to create a power domain for them and when such device
> is added, the power domain of it should belong to the serialized.

I was testing this, and got something working.

I have the deserializer introducing a separate power-domain for each RX 
port, and the serializer and the sensor both refer to their port's 
domain. I can see that the deserializer gets power on/off callbacks 
correctly when either serializer or sensor resumes.

The problem I have now is that while the power comes from the 
deserializer and is thus covered with the power domain, the sensor uses 
services from the serializer (gpios, clocks, i2c bus), and the 
serializer is not woken up when the sensor does runtime-pm resume (the 
power domain is powered up correctly when the sensor resumes).

The serializer creates the i2c adapter to which the sensor is added, so, 
afaics, there should be a child-parent relationship there. But maybe I 
have something wrong there, or it just doesn't work as I imagine it 
would work.

  Tomi

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