linux-kernel - Re: copy on write for splice() from file to pipe?

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Message-ID: <d89a7d6d-a40e-504d-8a6d-4d1f2c62cb41@kernel.dk>
Date:   Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:16:43 -0700
From:   Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Ming Lei <ming.lei@...hat.com>
Cc:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Stefan Metzmacher <metze@...ba.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux API Mailing List <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        io-uring <io-uring@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Samba Technical <samba-technical@...ts.samba.org>
Subject: Re: copy on write for splice() from file to pipe?

On 2/10/23 3:08?PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 1:51 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of splice/io_uring, Ming posted this today:
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/20230210153212.733006-1-ming.lei@redhat.com/
> 
> Ugh. Some of that is really ugly. Both 'ignore_sig' and
> 'ack_page_consuming' just look wrong. Pure random special cases.
> 
> And that 'ignore_sig' is particularly ugly, since the only thing that
> sets it also sets SPLICE_F_NONBLOCK.
> 
> And the *only* thing that actually then checks that field is
> 'splice_from_pipe_next()', where there are exactly two
> signal_pending() checks that it adds to, and
> 
>  (a) the first one is to protect from endless loops
> 
>  (b) the second one is irrelevant when  SPLICE_F_NONBLOCK is set
> 
> So honestly, just NAK on that series.
> 
> I think that instead of 'ignore_sig' (which shouldn't exist), that
> first 'signal_pending()' check in splice_from_pipe_next() should just
> be changed into a 'fatal_signal_pending()'.
> 
> But that 'ack_page_consuming' thing looks even more disgusting, and
> since I'm not sure why it even exists, I don't know what it's doing
> wrong.
> 
> Let's agree not to make splice() worse, while people are talking about
> how bad it already is, ok?

I was in no way advocating for this series, but it seems relevant as we
are discussing splice :-). I have pointed Ming at this discussion too.

-- 
Jens Axboe