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Date:   Sun, 12 Feb 2023 23:48:30 -0800
From:   Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@...dia.com>
To:     "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>
CC:     "jgg@...dia.com" <jgg@...dia.com>,
        "joro@...tes.org" <joro@...tes.org>,
        "will@...nel.org" <will@...nel.org>,
        "robin.murphy@....com" <robin.murphy@....com>,
        "alex.williamson@...hat.com" <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        "shuah@...nel.org" <shuah@...nel.org>,
        "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@...el.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux.dev" <iommu@...ts.linux.dev>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>,
        "baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/10] iommufd/device: Use iommu_group_replace_domain()

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 02:34:18AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
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> 
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@...dia.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:10 AM
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:11:23AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> >
> > > > > > +     if (!iommufd_hw_pagetable_has_group(hwpt, idev->group)) {
> > > > > > +             if (list_empty(&hwpt->devices)) {
> > > > > > +                     iopt_table_remove_domain(&hwpt->ioas->iopt,
> > > > > > +                                              hwpt->domain);
> > > > > > +                     list_del(&hwpt->hwpt_item);
> > > > > > +             }
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure how this can be fully shared between detach and replace.
> > > > > Here some work e.g. above needs to be done before calling
> > > > > iommu_group_replace_domain() while others can be done afterwards.
> > > >
> > > > This iopt_table_remove_domain/list_del is supposed to be done in
> > > > the hwpt's destroy() actually. We couldn't move it because it'd
> > > > need the new domain_alloc_user op and its implementation in ARM
> > > > driver. Overall, I think it should be safe to put it behind the
> > > > iommu_group_replace_domain().
> > > >
> > >
> > > My confusion is that we have different flows between detach/attach
> > > and replace.
> > >
> > > today with separate detach+attach we have following flow:
> > >
> > >         Remove device from current hwpt;
> > >         if (last_device in hwpt) {
> > >                 Remove hwpt domain from current iopt;
> > >                 if (last_device in group)
> > >                         detach group from hwpt domain;
> > >         }
> > >
> > >         if (first device in group) {
> > >                 attach group to new hwpt domain;
> > >                 if (first_device in hwpt)
> > >                         Add hwpt domain to new iopt;
> > >         Add device to new hwpt;
> > >
> > > but replace flow is different on the detach part:
> > >
> > >         if (first device in group) {
> > >                 replace group's domain from current hwpt to new hwpt;
> > >                 if (first_device in hwpt)
> > >                         Add hwpt domain to new iopt;
> > >         }
> > >
> > >         Remove device from old hwpt;
> > >         if (last_device in old hwpt)
> > >                 Remove hwpt domain from old iopt;
> > >
> > >         Add device to new hwpt;
> >
> > Oh... thinking it carefully, I see the flow does look a bit off.
> > Perhaps it's better to have a similar flow for replace.
> >
> > However, I think something would be still different due to its
> > tricky nature, especially for a multi-device iommu_group.
> >
> > An iommu_group_detach happens only when a device is the last one
> > in its group to go through the routine via a DETACH ioctl, while
> > an iommu_group_replace_domain() happens only when the device is
> > the first one in its group to go through the routine via another
> > ATTACH ioctl. However, when the first device does a replace, the
> > cleanup routine of the old hwpt is a NOP, since there are still
> > other devices (same group) in the old hwpt. And two implications
> > here:
> > 1) Any other device in the same group has to forcibly switch to
> >    the new domain, when the first device does a replace.
> > 2) The actual hwpt cleanup can only happen at the last device's
> >    replace call.
> >
> > This also means that kernel has to rely on the integrity of the
> > user space that it must replace all active devices in the group:
> >
> 
> Jason suggested to move hwpt cleanup out of the detach path
> in his reply to patch7. Presumably with that fix the major tricky
> point about hwpt in following scenarios would disappear. Let's
> see how it will work out then. 😊

What about point 1? If dev2 and dev3 are already replaced when
doing iommu_group_replace_domain() on dev1, their idev objects
still have the old hwpt/iopt until user space does another two
IOCTLs on them, right?

Should we only call iommu_group_replace_domain() when the last
device in the group gets a replace IOCTL?

Thanks
Nic

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