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Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.2302161204300.18393@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>
Date:   Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:45:11 -0500 (EST)
From:   Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>
To:     Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>
cc:     mgorman@...hsingularity.net, agk@...hat.com, snitzer@...nel.org,
        dm-devel@...hat.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [v2 PATCH 0/5] Introduce mempool pages bulk allocator
 and use it in dm-crypt



On Wed, 15 Feb 2023, Yang Shi wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:23 AM Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Feb 2023, Yang Shi wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Changelog:
> > > RFC -> v2:
> > >   * Added callback variant for page bulk allocator and mempool bulk allocator
> > >     per Mel Gorman.
> > >   * Used the callback version in dm-crypt driver.
> > >   * Some code cleanup and refactor to reduce duplicate code.
> > >
> > > rfc: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20221005180341.1738796-1-shy828301@gmail.com/
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > This seems like unneeded complication to me. We have alloc_pages(), it can
> > allocate multiple pages efficiently, so why not use it?
> 
> The alloc_pages() allocates *contiguous* pages, but dm-crypt doesn't
> need contiguous pages at all. This may incur unnecessary compaction

It doesn't hurt that the pages are contiguous - and allocating and freeing 
a few compound pages is even faster than allocating and freeing many 
0-order pages.

> overhead to the dm-crypt layer when memory is fragmented.

The compaction overhead may be suppressed by the GFP flags (i.e. don't use 
__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM).

> The bulk allocator is a good fit to this usecase, which allocates 
> multiple order-0 pages.
> 
> In addition, filesystem writeback doesn't guarantee power-of-2 pages
> every time IIUC. But alloc_pages() just can allocate power-of-2 pages.

So, we can allocate more compound pages for the non-power-of-2 case - see 
the next patch that I'm sending.

> >
> > I suggest to modify crypt_alloc_buffer() to use alloc_pages() and if
> > alloc_pages() fails (either because the system is low on memory or because
> > memory is too fragmented), fall back to the existing code that does
> > mempool_alloc().
> 
> My PoC patches just did this way, but called bulk allocator. There may
> be other potential mepool users as I listed in this cover letter,
> which may get benefits from bulk allocator. So introducing a new bulk
> mempool API seems better for long run although we just have one user
> for now. And it makes other uses easier to gain the benefit by just
> calling the new API.

This mempool bulk refactoring just makes the code bigger. And it is not 
needed - dm-crypt can fall-back to non-bulk mempool allocations.

In the next email, I'm sending a patch that is noticeably smaller and that 
uses alloc_pages()/__free_pages().

Mikulas

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