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Date:   Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:57:29 +0200
From:   Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@...aro.org>
To:     Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
Cc:     Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...nel.org>, Andy Gross <agross@...nel.org>,
        Bjorn Andersson <andersson@...nel.org>,
        Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@...aro.org>,
        Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@...aro.org>,
        Mike Turquette <mturquette@...libre.com>,
        linux-clk@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org, mka@...omium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] clk: Add generic sync_state callback for
 disabling unused clocks

On 23-02-21 11:58:24, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 10:47 AM Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@...aro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 23-02-20 09:51:55, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 8:28 AM Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@...aro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 23-02-20 17:46:36, Abel Vesa wrote:
> > > > > On 23-02-17 21:38:22, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > > > > > Quoting Abel Vesa (2022-12-27 12:45:27)
> > > > > > > There are unused clocks that need to remain untouched by clk_disable_unused,
> > > > > > > and most likely could be disabled later on sync_state. So provide a generic
> > > > > > > sync_state callback for the clock providers that register such clocks.
> > > > > > > Then, use the same mechanism as clk_disable_unused from that generic
> > > > > > > callback, but pass the device to make sure only the clocks belonging to
> > > > > > > the current clock provider get disabled, if unused. Also, during the
> > > > > > > default clk_disable_unused, if the driver that registered the clock has
> > > > > > > the generic clk_sync_state_disable_unused callback set for sync_state,
> > > > > > > skip disabling its clocks.
> > >
> > > Hi Abel,
> > >
> > > We have the day off today, so I'll respond more later. Also, please cc
> > > me on all sync_state() related patches in the future.
> > >
> >
> > Sure thing.
> >
> > > I haven't taken a close look at your series yet, but at a glance it
> > > seems incomplete.
> > >
> > > Any reason you didn't just try to revive my series[1] or nudge me?
> > > [1]- https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210407034456.516204-3-saravanak@google.com/
> >
> > This patchset is heavily reworked and much more simpler as it relies
> > strictly on the sync_state being registered by the clock provider.
> 
> It's simpler because it's not complete. It for sure doesn't handle
> orphan-reparenting. It also doesn't make a lot of sense for only some
> clock providers registering for sync_state(). If CC-A is feeding a
> clock signal that's used as a root for clocks in CC-B, then what
> happens if only CC-B implements sync_state() but CC-A doesn't. The
> clocks from CC-B are still going to turn off when CC-A turns off its
> PLL before CC-B registers.
> 
> Nack for this patch.
> 
> Also, unless there's a strong objection, let's go back to my patch
> please. It's way more well tested and used across different SoCs than
> this patch. Also, I'm pretty sure the orphan handling is needed for
> qcom SoC's too.

Fine. Will wait for a respin of your patchset. Please CC me on it.

Bjorn please drop this patchset from your tree/pull request.

> 
> -Saravana
> 
> >
> > I saw your patchset a few months ago but then forgot about its
> > existence. That's also why I forgot to nudge you. Sorry about that.
> >
> > >
> > > At the least, I know [1] works on all Android devices (including
> > > Qualcomm SoCs) released in the past 2-3 years or more. If [1] works
> > > for you, I'd rather land that after addressing Stephen's comments
> > > there (I remember them being fairly easy to address comments) instead
> > > of whipping up a new series that's not as well used. I just got busy
> > > with other things and addressing more fundamental fw_devlink TODOs
> > > before getting back to this.
> > >
> > > Hi Bjorn,
> > >
> > > I see in another reply you've said:
> > >
> > > Applied, thanks!
> > >
> > > [1/2] clk: Add generic sync_state callback for disabling unused clocks
> > >       commit: 26b36df7516692292312063ca6fd19e73c06d4e7
> > > [2/2] clk: qcom: sdm845: Use generic clk_sync_state_disable_unused callback
> > >       commit: 99c0f7d35c4b204dd95ba50e155f32c99695b445
> > >
> > > Where exactly have you applied them? I hope you haven't applied the
> > > clk.c changes to some tree that goes into 6.3.
> >
> > I think it is already part of Bjorn's Qualcomm clocks pull request.
> >
> > >
> > > -Saravana
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How does that avoid disabling clks randomly in the clk tree? I'm
> > > > > > concerned about disabling an unused clk in the middle of the tree
> > > > > > because it doesn't have a driver using sync state, while the clk is the
> > > > > > parent of an unused clk that is backed by sync state.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    clk A -->  clk B
> > > > > >
> > > > > > clk A: No sync state
> > > > > > clk B: sync state
> > > > > >
> > > > > > clk B is left on by the bootloader. __clk_disable_unused(NULL) is called
> > > > > > from late init. Imagine clk A is the root of the tree.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     clk_disable_unused_subtree(clk_core A)
> > > > > >       clk_disable_unused_subtree(clk_core B)
> > > > > >         if (from_sync_state && core->dev != dev)
> > > > > >           return;
> > > > > >       ...
> > > > > >       clk core A->ops->disable()
> > > > > >
> > > > > > clk core B is off now?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, that is correct. But the same thing is happening currently if the
> > > > > clk_ignore_unused in not specified. At least with this new approach, we
> > > > > get to leave unused clocks enabled either until sync_state is called or forever.
> > > > > All the provider has to do is to implement a sync_state callback (or use
> > > > > the generic one provided). So the provider of clk A would obviously need
> > > > > a sync state callback registered.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also sync_state seems broken right now. I saw mka mentioned that if you
> > > > > > have a device node enabled in your DT but never enable a driver for it
> > > > > > in the kernel we'll never get sync_state called. This is another
> > > > > > problem, but it concerns me that sync_state would make the unused clk
> > > > > > disabling happen at some random time or not at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, the fact that the sync state not being called because a driver for
> > > > > a consumer device doesn't probe does not really mean it is broken. Just
> > > > > because the consumer driver hasn't probed yet, doesn't mean it will
> > > > > not probe later on.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > CC'ed Saravana
> > > >
> > > > > That aside, rather than going with clk_ignore_unused all the time on
> > > > > qcom platforms, at least in a perfect scenario (where sync state is
> > > > > reached for all providers) the clocks get disabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can the problem be approached more directly? If this is about fixing
> > > > > > continuous splash screen, then I wonder why we can't list out the clks
> > > > > > that we know are enabled by the bootloader in some new DT binding, e.g.:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     clock-controller {
> > > > > >             #clock-cells = <1>;
> > > > > >             boot-handoff-clocks = <&consumer_device "clock cells for this clk provider">;
> > > > > >     };
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then mark those as "critical/don't turn off" all the way up the clk tree
> > > > > > when the clk driver probes by essentially incrementing the
> > > > > > prepare/enable count but not actually touching the hardware, and when
> > > > > > the clks are acquired by clk_get() for that device that's using them
> > > > > > from boot we make the first clk_prepare_enable() do nothing and not
> > > > > > increment the count at all. We can probably stick some flag into the
> > > > > > 'struct clk' for this when we create the handle in clk_get() so that the
> > > > > > prepare and enable functions can special case and skip over.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, that means we need to play whack-a-mole by alsways adding such clocks to
> > > > > devicetree.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sync_state hook operates on a driver level, which is too large when
> > > > > > you consider that a single clk driver may register hundreds of clks that
> > > > > > are not related. We want to target a solution at the clk level so that
> > > > > > any damage from keeping on all the clks provided by the controller is
> > > > > > limited to just the drivers that aren't probed and ready to handle their
> > > > > > clks. If sync_state could be called whenever a clk consumer consumes a
> > > > > > clk it may work? Technically we already have that by the clk_hw_provider
> > > > > > function but there isn't enough information being passed there, like the
> > > > > > getting device.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, from the multitude of clocks registered by one provider, the
> > > > > ones already explicitely enabled (and obvisously their parents) by thier
> > > > > consumer are safe. The only ones we need to worry about are the ones that
> > > > > might be enabled by bootloader and need to remain on. With the sync state
> > > > > approach, the latter mentioned clocks will either remain on indefinitely
> > > > > or will be disabled on sync state. The provider driver is the only level
> > > > > that has a registered sync state callback.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/clk-provider.h b/include/linux/clk-provider.h
> > > > > > > index 842e72a5348f..cf1adfeaf257 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/include/linux/clk-provider.h
> > > > > > > +++ b/include/linux/clk-provider.h
> > > > > > > @@ -720,6 +720,7 @@ struct clk *clk_register_divider_table(struct device *dev, const char *name,
> > > > > > >                 void __iomem *reg, u8 shift, u8 width,
> > > > > > >                 u8 clk_divider_flags, const struct clk_div_table *table,
> > > > > > >                 spinlock_t *lock);
> > > > > > > +void clk_sync_state_disable_unused(struct device *dev);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a weird place to put this. Why not in the helper functions
> > > > > > section?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure this can be moved.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  /**
> > > > > > >   * clk_register_divider - register a divider clock with the clock framework
> > > > > > >   * @dev: device registering this clock

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