linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 2/2] shmem: add support to ignore swap

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Message-ID: <CAJD7tkYHHSaiZwU9Evu-4r5=4FjrmFc-=xMst63io-4AM9N6XA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 22 Feb 2023 17:04:32 -0800
From:   Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
To:     Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>
Cc:     "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, hughd@...gle.com,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        p.raghav@...sung.com, dave@...olabs.net, a.manzanares@...sung.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] shmem: add support to ignore swap

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 4:53 PM Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 12:33:37PM -0800, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:45 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 08:01:01AM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 04:01:51AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > > > > @@ -1334,11 +1336,15 @@ static int shmem_writepage(struct page *page, struct writeback_control *wbc)
> > > > > >   struct shmem_inode_info *info;
> > > > > >   struct address_space *mapping = folio->mapping;
> > > > > >   struct inode *inode = mapping->host;
> > > > > > + struct shmem_sb_info *sbinfo = SHMEM_SB(inode->i_sb);
> > > > > >   swp_entry_t swap;
> > > > > >   pgoff_t index;
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   BUG_ON(!folio_test_locked(folio));
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + if (wbc->for_reclaim && unlikely(sbinfo->noswap))
> > > > > > +         return AOP_WRITEPAGE_ACTIVATE;
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure this is the best way to handle this.  We'll still incur the
> > > > > oevrhead of tracking shmem pages on the LRU, only to fail to write them
> > > > > out when the VM thinks we should get rid of them.  We'd be better off
> > > > > not putting them on the LRU in the first place.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, makes sense, so in effect then if we do that then on reclaim
> > > > we should be able to even WARN_ON(sbinfo->noswap) assuming we did
> > > > everthing right.
> > > >
> > > > Hrm, we have invalidate_mapping_pages(mapping, 0, -1) but that seems a bit
> > > > too late how about d_mark_dontcache() on shmem_get_inode() instead?
> > >
> > > I was thinking that the two calls to folio_add_lru() in mm/shmem.c
> > > should be conditional on sbinfo->noswap.
> > >
> >
> > Wouldn't this cause the folio to not show up in any lru lists, even
> > the unevictable one, which may be a strange discrepancy?
> >
> > Perhaps we can do something like shmem_lock(), which calls
> > mapping_set_unevictable(), which will make folio_evictable() return
> > true and the LRUs code will take care of the rest?
>
> If shmem_lock() should take care of that is that because writepages()
> should not happen or because we have that info->flags & VM_LOCKED stop
> gap on writepages()? If the earlier then shouldn't we WARN_ON_ONCE()
> if writepages() is called on info->flags & VM_LOCKED?
>
> While I see the value in mapping_set_unevictable() I am not sure I see
> the point in using shmem_lock(). I don't see why we should constrain
> noswap tmpfs option to RLIMIT_MEMLOCK
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong but the limit seem to be designed for
> files / IPC / unprivileged perf limits. On the contrary, we'd bump the
> count for each new inode. Using shmem_lock() would  also complicate the
> inode allocation on shmem as we'd have to unwind on failure from the
> user_shm_lock(). It would also beg the question of when to capture a
> ucount for an inode, should we just share one for the superblock at
> shmem_fill_super() or do we really need to capture it at every single
> inode creation? In theory we could end up with different limits.
>
> So why not just use mapping_set_unevictable() alone for this use case?

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I did NOT mean that we should use
shmem_lock(), I meant that we do something similar to what
shmem_lock() does and use mapping_set_unevictable() or similar.

I think we just need to make sure that if we use
mapping_set_unevictable() does not imply that shmem_lock() was used
(i.e no code assumes that if the shmem mapping is unevictable then
shmem_lock() was used).

Anyway, I am not very knowledgeable here so take anything I say with a
grain of salt.
Thanks.

>
>   Luis