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Message-ID: <b863f0ec-5e53-0045-cca1-c1a513e930e5@gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:45:26 +0700
From:   Ammar Faizi <ammarfaizi2@...il.com>
To:     Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@....com>,
        Filipe Manana <fdmanana@...nel.org>
Cc:     Chris Mason <clm@...com>, Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>,
        David Sterba <dsterba@...e.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
        Filipe Manana <fdmanana@...e.com>,
        Linux Btrfs Mailing List <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Fsdevel Mailing List <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        GNU/Weeb Mailing List <gwml@...r.gnuweeb.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Introducing `wq_cpu_set` mount option for
 btrfs

On 2/27/23 6:46 PM, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> On 2023/2/27 19:02, Filipe Manana wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 4:31 PM Ammar Faizi <ammarfaizi2@...weeb.org> wrote:
>>> Figure (the CPU usage when `wq_cpu_set` is used VS when it is not):
>>> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ammarfaizi2/a10f8073e58d1712c1ed49af83ae4ad1/raw/a4f7cbc4eb163db792a669d570ff542495e8c704/wq_cpu_set.png
>>
>> I haven't read the patchset.
>>
>> It's great that it reduces CPU usage. But does it also provide
>> other performance benefits, like lower latency or higher throughput
>> for some workloads? Or using less CPU also affects negatively in
>> those other aspects?

Based on my testing, it gives lower latency for a browser app playing
a YouTube video.

Without this proposed option, high-level compression on a btrfs
storage is a real noise to user space apps. It periodically freezes
the UI for 2 to 3 seconds and causes audio lag; it mostly happens when
it starts writing the dirty write to the disk.

It's reasonably easy to reproduce by making a large dirty write and
invoking a "sync" command.

Side note: Pin user apps to CPUs a,b,c,d and btrfs workquques to CPUs
w,x,y,z.

> So far it looks like to just set CPU masks for each workqueue.
> 
> Thus if it's reducing CPU usage, it also takes longer time to finish
> the workload (compression,csum calculation etc).

Yes, that's correct.

I see this as a good mount option for btrfs because the btrfs-workload
in question is CPU bound, specifically for the writing operation.
While it may degrade the btrfs workload because we limit the number of
usable CPUs, there is a condition where users don't prioritize writing
to disk.

Let's say:
I want to run a smooth app with video. I also want to have high-level
compression for my btrfs storage. But I don't want the compression and
checksum work to bother my video; here, I give you CPU x,y,z for the
btrfs work. And here I give you CPU a,b,c,d,e,f for the video work.

I have a similar case on a torrent seeder server where high-level
compression is expected. And I believe there are more cases where this
option is advantageous.

Thank you all for the comments,

-- 
Ammar Faizi

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