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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:23:56 +0100
From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@...wei.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...hat.com,
juri.lelli@...hat.com, dietmar.eggemann@....com,
rostedt@...dmis.org, bsegall@...gle.com, mgorman@...e.de,
bristot@...hat.com, vschneid@...hat.com, rkagan@...zon.de,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/fair: sanitize vruntime of entity being migrated
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 at 10:57, Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@...wei.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 在 2023/3/10 22:29, Vincent Guittot 写道:
> > Le jeudi 09 mars 2023 à 16:14:38 (+0100), Vincent Guittot a écrit :
> >> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:37, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:28:25PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 02:34:05PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Then, even if we don't clear exec_start before migrating and keep
> >>>>> current value to be used in place_entity on the new cpu, we can't
> >>>>> compare the rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) of 2 different rqs AFAICT
> >>>>
> >>>> Blergh -- indeed, irq and steal time can skew them between CPUs :/
> >>>> I suppose we can fudge that... wait_start (which is basically what we're
> >>>> making it do) also does that IIRC.
> >>>>
> >>>> I really dislike having this placement muck spreadout like proposed.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I think we might be over-engineering this, we don't care about
> >>> accuracy at all, all we really care about is 'long-time'.
> >>
> >> you mean taking the patch 1/2 that you mentioned here to add a
> >> migrated field:
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/all/68832dfbb60fda030540b5f4e39c5801942689b1.1648228023.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com/T/#ma5637eb8010f3f4a4abff778af8db705429d003b
> >>
> >> And assume that the divergence between the rq_clock_task() can be ignored ?
> >>
> >> That could probably work but we need to replace the (60LL *
> >> NSEC_PER_SEC) by ((1ULL << 63) / NICE_0_LOAD) because 60sec divergence
> >> would not be unrealistic.
> >> and a comment to explain why it's acceptable
> >
> > Zhang,
> >
> > Could you try the patch below ?
> > This is a rebase/merge/update of:
> > -patch 1/2 above and
> > -https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230209193107.1432770-1-rkagan@amazon.de/
>
>
> I applyed and tested this patch, and it make hackbench slower.
> According to my previous test results. The good result is 82.1(s).
> But the result of this patch is 108.725(s).
By "the result of this patch is 108.725(s)", you mean the result of
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230209193107.1432770-1-rkagan@amazon.de/
alone, don't you ?
>
>
> > version1: v6.2
> > version2: v6.2 + commit 829c1651e9c4
> > version3: v6.2 + commit 829c1651e9c4 + this patch
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > version1 version2 version3
> > test1 81.0 118.1 82.1
> > test2 82.1 116.9 80.3
> > test3 83.2 103.9 83.3
> > avg(s) 82.1 113.0 81.9
Ok, it looks like we are back to normal figures
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The proposal accepts a divergence of up to 52 days between the 2 rqs.
> >
> > If this work, we will prepare a proper patch
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> > index 63d242164b1a..cb8af0a137f7 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> > @@ -550,6 +550,7 @@ struct sched_entity {
> > struct rb_node run_node;
> > struct list_head group_node;
> > unsigned int on_rq;
> > + unsigned int migrated;
> >
> > u64 exec_start;
> > u64 sum_exec_runtime;
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 7a1b1f855b96..36acd9598b40 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -1057,6 +1057,7 @@ update_stats_curr_start(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
> > /*
> > * We are starting a new run period:
> > */
> > + se->migrated = 0;
> > se->exec_start = rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq));
> > }
> >
> > @@ -4684,13 +4685,23 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int initial)
> >
> > /*
> > * Pull vruntime of the entity being placed to the base level of
> > - * cfs_rq, to prevent boosting it if placed backwards. If the entity
> > - * slept for a long time, don't even try to compare its vruntime with
> > - * the base as it may be too far off and the comparison may get
> > - * inversed due to s64 overflow.
> > + * cfs_rq, to prevent boosting it if placed backwards.
> > + * However, min_vruntime can advance much faster than real time, with
> > + * the exterme being when an entity with the minimal weight always runs
> > + * on the cfs_rq. If the new entity slept for long, its vruntime
> > + * difference from min_vruntime may overflow s64 and their comparison
> > + * may get inversed, so ignore the entity's original vruntime in that
> > + * case.
> > + * The maximal vruntime speedup is given by the ratio of normal to
> > + * minimal weight: NICE_0_LOAD / MIN_SHARES, so cutting off on the
>
> why not is `scale_load_down(NICE_0_LOAD) / MIN_SHARES` here ?
yes, you are right.
>
>
> > + * sleep time of 2^63 / NICE_0_LOAD should be safe.
> > + * When placing a migrated waking entity, its exec_start has been set
> > + * from a different rq. In order to take into account a possible
> > + * divergence between new and prev rq's clocks task because of irq and
>
> This divergence might be larger, it cause `sleep_time` maybe negative.
AFAICT, we are safe with ((1ULL << 63) / scale_load_down(NICE_0_LOAD)
/ 2) as long as the divergence between the 2 rqs clocks task is lower
than 2^52nsec. Do you expect a divergence higher than 2^52 nsec
(around 52 days)?
We can probably keep using (1ULL << 63) / scale_load_down(NICE_0_LOAD)
which is already half the max value if needed.
the fact that sleep_time can be negative is not a problem as
s64)sleep_time > will take care of this.
>
> > + * stolen time, we take an additional margin.
> > */
> > sleep_time = rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) - se->exec_start;
> > - if ((s64)sleep_time > 60LL * NSEC_PER_SEC)
> > + if ((s64)sleep_time > (1ULL << 63) / NICE_0_LOAD / 2)> se->vruntime = vruntime;
> > else
> > se->vruntime = max_vruntime(se->vruntime, vruntime);
> > @@ -7658,7 +7669,7 @@ static void migrate_task_rq_fair(struct task_struct *p, int new_cpu)
> > se->avg.last_update_time = 0;
> >
> > /* We have migrated, no longer consider this task hot */
> > - se->exec_start = 0;
> > + se->migrated = 1;
> >
> > update_scan_period(p, new_cpu);
> > }
> > @@ -8344,6 +8355,9 @@ static int task_hot(struct task_struct *p, struct lb_env *env)
> > if (sysctl_sched_migration_cost == 0)
> > return 0;
> >
> > + if (p->se.migrated)
> > + return 0;
> > +
> > delta = rq_clock_task(env->src_rq) - p->se.exec_start;
> >
> > return delta < (s64)sysctl_sched_migration_cost;
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> > .
> >
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