Message-ID: <20230317222436.GA1978818@bhelgaas>
Date:   Fri, 17 Mar 2023 17:24:36 -0500
From:   Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
To:     Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@....com>
Cc:     Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI: imx6: Save and restore MSI control of RC in
 suspend and resume

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 07:38:02AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@...nel.org>
> > Sent: 2023年3月16日 16:11
> > To: Hongxing Zhu <hongxing.zhu@....com>
> > Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>; l.stach@...gutronix.de;
> > bhelgaas@...gle.com; linux-pci@...r.kernel.org;
> > linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org;
> > kernel@...gutronix.de; dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@....com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI: imx6: Save and restore MSI control of RC in
> > suspend and resume
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:37:41AM +0000, Hongxing Zhu wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > > > > It's not a separate register.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The bit I manipulated is the MSI Enable bit of the Message
> > > > > > > Control Register for MSI (Offset 02h) contained in the
> > > > > > > MSI-capability of Root Complex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In addition, on i.MX6, the MSI Enable bit controls delivery of
> > > > > > > MSI interrupts from components below the Root Port.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, set MSI Enable in imx6q-pcie to let the MSI from
> > > > > > > downstream components works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My confusion is about this "MSI Capability" found by
> > > > > > "dw_pcie_find_capability(pci, PCI_CAP_ID_MSI)" in your patch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The i.MX6 manual might refer to that as an "MSI Capability" but
> > > > > > as far as I know, the PCIe base spec doesn't document a Root
> > > > > > Complex MSI
> > > > Capability.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think it's the same as the one documented in PCIe r6.0,
> > > > > > sec 7.7.2.  I think it's different because:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   (1) I *think* "pci" here refers to the RC, not to a Root Port.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   (2) The semantics are different.  The MSI-X Enable bit in 7.7.2 only
> > > > > >   determines whether the Function itself is permitted to use MSI-X.
> > > > > >   It has nothing to do with devices *below* a Root Port can use
> > MSI-X.
> > > > > >   It also has nothing to do with whether a Root Port can forward MSI
> > > > > >   transactions from those downstream devices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This part of my confusion could be easily resolved via a comment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do have a follow-on question, though: the patch seems to
> > > > > > enable MSI-related functionality using a register in the
> > > > > > DesignWare IP, not something in the i.MX6-specific IP.  If
> > > > > > that's true, why don't other DesignWare-based drivers need something
> > similar?
> > > > > Hi Bjorn:
> > > > > Thanks a lot for you reply.
> > > > > This behavior is specific for i.MX PCIe.
> > > >
> > > > Which behaviour ? It can't be the root port MSI capability, that
> > > > would be a HW bug (ie disabling root port MSIs would imply disabling
> > > > MSIs for all downstream components).
> > > >
> > >
> > > i.MX PCIe designer use this MSI_EN bit to control the MSI trigger when
> > > integrate  Design Ware PCIe IP.
> > > Without the MSI_EN bit assertion (1b'1), the devices below this RC
> > > can't trigger  the MSI successfully.
> > > Yes, you're right. It should not be the root port MSI capability.
> > 
> > The question is, it is or it is not the root port MSI capability ?
> > 
> > If it is, that's a HW bug.
> > 
> > If it is not there is nothing to do and this patch can be merged.
> Hi Lorenzo:
> Thanks for your reply.
> I think it is not the root port MSI capability actually.
> Refer to my understands, designer just use the msi_en bit to control the
>  delivery of MSI interrupts from components below the Root Port.
> > 
> > > > > i.MX PCIe designer use this MSI_EN bit to control the MSI trigger
> > > > > when integrate Design Ware PCIe IP.
> > > >
> > > > Fair enough but that can't be the MSI Enable bit in the Root Port
> > > > MSI capability "Message Control" field I am afraid.
> > > >
> > > > It is what Bjorn mentioned quite clearly, a root complex
> > > > configuration register dressed as an MSI capability, the root
> > > > complex is not a PCI device; either that or that's an HW bug.
> > > Yes, it is. I agree with you. Had report this situation to the design team.
> > > Hope to correct this bug in HW design if it's possible.
> > 
> > I don't understand if it is a HW bug or not, see above. I think it is legitimate to
> > have MMIO register space that *looks* like an MSI capability for the root
> > complex to control delivery of MSI interrupts, as long as it is not the actual
> > root port MSI capability, in the root port PCI config space in which case this
> > would be a HW bug from what you are reporting.
> I just provide the following suggestions.
> - Root complex shouldn't have the MSI capability refer to the PCIe Spec
>   7.7.1 chapter.
> - Root port MSIs should not imply disabling MSIs for all downstream components.

I think this is all a lot of confusion, mostly on my part, sorry about
that.

Root Complex configuration and behavior is not specified by the PCIe
spec, so that's completely up to the i.MX designer.  It's fine for the
Root Complex to have an MSI Capability, and it's fine for that
capability to enable/disable the RC fielding of MSI MemWr transactions
from downstream devices and triggering MSI interrupts.

It's also fine for the RC MSI Capability to be identified with a
Capability ID of 0x5, although it is slightly confusing to use
PCI_CAP_ID_MSI to find it.  It's also slightly confusing to use the
PCI_MSI_FLAGS offset into the RC MSI Capability.

Using the PCI_CAP_ID_MSI, PCI_MSI_FLAGS, and PCI_MSI_FLAGS_ENABLE
macros suggests to the reader that this RC MSI capability is the same
as the the MSI Capability defined by PCIe r6.0, sec 7.7.1.  Obviously
it is *not* the same, because we're talking about a *Root Complex*
capability, while the sec 7.7.1 capability can only appear on PCIe
functions (Root Ports, Endpoints, Switch Ports, etc).

I suggest a comment to the effect that this is a Root Complex MSI
Capability, not the MSI Capability defined by PCIe r6.0, sec 7.7.1.

Possibly even add new #defines in pci-imx6.c with different names,
even though the values happen to be the same as the PCI_MSI_*
#defines.  That would be a convenient place to put a comment about
what they are.

Bjorn

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