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Date:   Tue, 4 Apr 2023 15:00:57 -0700
From:   Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
To:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>,
        Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@...il.com>,
        "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@...radead.org>,
        Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Peter Xu <peterx@...hat.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@...e.de>,
        Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] Ignore non-LRU-based reclaim in memcg reclaim

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 2:58 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 14:49:13 -0700 Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 2:38 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue,  4 Apr 2023 00:13:50 +0000 Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Upon running some proactive reclaim tests using memory.reclaim, we
> > > > noticed some tests flaking where writing to memory.reclaim would be
> > > > successful even though we did not reclaim the requested amount fully.
> > > > Looking further into it, I discovered that *sometimes* we over-report
> > > > the number of reclaimed pages in memcg reclaim.
> > > >
> > > > Reclaimed pages through other means than LRU-based reclaim are tracked
> > > > through reclaim_state in struct scan_control, which is stashed in
> > > > current task_struct. These pages are added to the number of reclaimed
> > > > pages through LRUs. For memcg reclaim, these pages generally cannot be
> > > > linked to the memcg under reclaim and can cause an overestimated count
> > > > of reclaimed pages. This short series tries to address that.
> > > >
> > > > Patches 1-2 are just refactoring, they add helpers that wrap some
> > > > operations on current->reclaim_state, and rename
> > > > reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab to reclaim_state->reclaimed.
> > > >
> > > > Patch 3 ignores pages reclaimed outside of LRU reclaim in memcg reclaim.
> > > > The pages are uncharged anyway, so even if we end up under-reporting
> > > > reclaimed pages we will still succeed in making progress during
> > > > charging.
> > > >
> > > > Do not let the diff stat deceive you, the core of this series is patch 3,
> > > > which has one line of code change. All the rest is refactoring and one
> > > > huge comment.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be better to do this as a single one-line patch for
> > > backportability?  Then all the refactoring etcetera can be added on
> > > later.
> >
> > Without refactoring the code that adds reclaim_state->reclaimed to
> > scan_control->nr_reclaimed into a helper (flush_reclaim_state()), the
> > change would need to be done in two places instead of one, and I
> > wouldn't know where to put the huge comment.
>
> Well, all depends on how desirable it it that we backport.  If "not
> desirable" then leave things as-is.  If at least "possibly desirable"
> then a simple patch with the two changes and no elaborate comment will
> suit.
>

I would rather leave the current series as-is with an elaborate
comment. I can send a separate single patch as a backport to stable if
this is something that we usually do (though I am not sure how to
format such patch).

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