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Date:   Tue, 4 Apr 2023 23:15:40 +0800
From:   Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@...cle.com>,
        Yu Chen <yu.c.chen@...el.com>
CC:     Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <vschneid@...hat.com>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...el.com>,
        Nitin Tekchandani <nitin.tekchandani@...el.com>,
        Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: Make tg->load_avg per node

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 01:39:55PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
[...]
> Another observation of this workload is: it has a lot of wakeup time
> task migrations and that is the reason why update_load_avg() and
> update_cfs_group() shows noticeable cost. Running this workload in N
> instances setup where N >= 2 with sysbench's nr_threads set to 1/N nr_cpu,
> task migrations on wake up time are greatly reduced and the overhead from
> the two above mentioned functions also dropped a lot. It's not clear to
> me why running in multiple instances can reduce task migrations on
> wakeup path yet.

Regarding this observation, I've some finding. The TLDR is: 1 instance
setup's overall CPU util is lower than N >= 2 instances setup and as a
result, under 1 instance setup, sis() is more likely to find idle cpus
than N >= 2 instances setup and that is the reason why 1 instance setup
has more migrations.

More details:

For 1 instance with nr_thread=nr_cpu=224 setup, during a 5s window,
there are 10 million calls of select_idle_sibling() and 6.1 million
migrations. Of these migrations, 4.6 million comes from select_idle_cpu(),
1.3 million comes from recent_cpu.
mpstat of this time window:
Average:    NODE    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal %guest  %gnice   %idle
Average:     all   45.15    0.00   18.59    0.00    0.00   17.29    0.00 0.00    0.00   18.98
Average:       0   38.14    0.00   17.29    0.00    0.00   14.77    0.00 0.00    0.00   29.80
Average:       1   52.07    0.00   19.88    0.00    0.00   19.78    0.00 0.00    0.00    8.28


For 4 instance with nr_thread=56 setup, during a 5s window, there are 15
million calls of select_idle_sibling() and only 30k migrations.
select_idle_cpu() is called 15 million times but only 23k of them passed
the sd_share->nr_idle_scan != 0 test.
mpstat of this time window:
Average:    NODE    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal %guest  %gnice   %idle
Average:     all   68.54    0.00   21.54    0.00    0.00    8.35    0.00 0.00    0.00    1.58
Average:       0   70.05    0.00   20.92    0.00    0.00    8.17    0.00 0.00    0.00    0.87
Average:       1   67.03    0.00   22.16    0.00    0.00    8.53    0.00 0.00    0.00    2.29

For 8 instance with nr_thread=28 setup, during a 5s window, there are
16 million calls of select_idle_sibling() and 9.6k migrations.
select_idle_cpu() is called 16 million times but none of them passed the
sd_share->nr_idle_scan != 0 test.
mpstat of this time window:
Average:    NODE    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal %guest  %gnice   %idle
Average:     all   70.29    0.00   20.99    0.00    0.00    8.28    0.00 0.00    0.00    0.43
Average:       0   71.58    0.00   19.98    0.00    0.00    8.04    0.00 0.00    0.00    0.40
Average:       1   69.00    0.00   22.01    0.00    0.00    8.52    0.00 0.00    0.00    0.47

On a side note: when sd_share->nr_idle_scan > 0 and has_idle_core is true,
then sd_share->nr_idle_scan is not actually respected. Is this intended?
It seems to say: if there is idle core, then let's try hard and ignore
SIS_UTIL to find that idle core, right?

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