linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] overlayfs: Trigger file re-evaluation by IMA / EVM after writes

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Message-ID: <b78a9cd9-f3ab-3834-991c-3c15590dcbd8@linux.ibm.com>
Date:   Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:27:16 -0400
From:   Stefan Berger <stefanb@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>,
        Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
        Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>
Cc:     zohar@...ux.ibm.com, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org,
        miklos@...redi.hu, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@...r.kernel.org,
        amir73il@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] overlayfs: Trigger file re-evaluation by IMA / EVM after
 writes



On 4/6/23 18:04, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 17:24 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
>> On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 16:22 -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/6/23 15:37, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 15:11 -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/6/23 14:46, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 17:01 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 10:36:41AM -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correct. As long as IMA is also measuring the upper inode then it seems
>>>>>> like you shouldn't need to do anything special here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately IMA does not notice the changes. With the patch provided in the other email IMA works as expected.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like remeasurement is usually done in ima_check_last_writer.
>>>> That gets called from __fput which is called when we're releasing the
>>>> last reference to the struct file.
>>>>
>>>> You've hooked into the ->release op, which gets called whenever
>>>> filp_close is called, which happens when we're disassociating the file
>>>> from the file descriptor table.
>>>>
>>>> So...I don't get it. Is ima_file_free not getting called on your file
>>>> for some reason when you go to close it? It seems like that should be
>>>> handling this.
>>>
>>> I would ditch the original proposal in favor of this 2-line patch shown here:
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/a95f62ed-8b8a-38e5-e468-ecbde3b221af@linux.ibm.com/T/#m3bd047c6e5c8200df1d273c0ad551c645dd43232
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ok, I think I get it. IMA is trying to use the i_version from the
>> overlayfs inode.
>>
>> I suspect that the real problem here is that IMA is just doing a bare
>> inode_query_iversion. Really, we ought to make IMA call
>> vfs_getattr_nosec (or something like it) to query the getattr routine in
>> the upper layer. Then overlayfs could just propagate the results from
>> the upper layer in its response.
>>
>> That sort of design may also eventually help IMA work properly with more
>> exotic filesystems, like NFS or Ceph.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Maybe something like this? It builds for me but I haven't tested it. It
> looks like overlayfs already should report the upper layer's i_version
> in getattr, though I haven't tested that either:


Thank you! I will give it a try once I am back.

     Stefan