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Message-ID: <87zg72vo5g.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 12:39:31 +0206
From: John Ogness <john.ogness@...utronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@...omium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: port lock: was: Re: [PATCH printk v1 11/18] printk: nobkl:
Introduce printer threads
On 2023-04-20, Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com> wrote:
>> OK, let's first define what the two locks are supposed to synchronize.
>> My understanding is that this patchset uses them the following way:
>>
>> + The new lock (atomic_state) is used to serialize emiting
>> messages between different write contexts. It replaces
>> the functionality of console_lock.
It replaces the functionality of console_lock, but operates at a finer
level. It is serializing all access to the hardware registers involved
in outputting. For the 8250 driver, this is the IER register.
>> It is a per-console sleeping lock, allows voluntary and has
>> hand-over using priorities and spinning with a timeout.
It is not a sleeping lock. It is used as a trylock or spinning with
timeout. It has the special feature that it can be handed over to or
stolen by another context with a higher ownership priority.
>> + The port_lock is used to synchronize various operations
>> of the console driver/device, like probe, init, exit,
>> configuration update.
>>
>> It is typically a per-console driver/device spin lock.
>>
>>
>> I guess that we would want to keep both locks:
I agree because the port_lock has a much larger scope and is fully
preemptible under PREEMPT_RT.
> I forgot to check how these two locks are supposed to be used
> in write_atomic().
>
> It seems that cons_atomic_flush_con() takes only the new lock
> (atomic_state) and ignores the port_lock(). It should be safe
> against write_kthread(). But it is not safe against other
> operations with the console device that are synchronized
> only by the port_lock().
Yes, it is because the console drivers will also take the atomic_state
lock when needed. You can see this in the POC patch I posted [0].
For example, a new function serial8250_enter_unsafe() is used by the
serial drivers to mark the beginning of an unsafe section. To use this
function, the port_lock must be held. This function additionally takes
the atomic_state lock. Then the driver is allowed to touch hardware
registers related to outputting (IER).
But typically the driver will use a new higher level function, for
example serial8250_in_IER(), which will enter unsafe, read the register,
and exit unsafe. This provides the necessary synchronization against
write_atomic() (for the 8250 driver).
Please also remember that hostile takeovers of drivers in unsafe
sections are done as a last resort in panic, after all other nbcon
consoles have safely flushed their buffers. So we should not spend too
many brain cycles on "what if the atomic_state lock is stolen while in
an unsafe section" questions. The answer is: then you are in "hope and
pray" mode.
John
[0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/877cv1geo4.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de
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