linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings by default

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <39cc0f26-8fc2-79dd-2e84-62238d27fd98@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri, 28 Apr 2023 18:13:03 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
Cc:     Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@...il.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@...nelisnetworks.com>,
        Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>,
        Christian Benvenuti <benve@...co.com>,
        Nelson Escobar <neescoba@...co.com>,
        Bernard Metzler <bmt@...ich.ibm.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
        Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
        Bjorn Topel <bjorn@...nel.org>,
        Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>,
        Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com>,
        Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
        Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@...il.com>,
        Mika Penttila <mpenttil@...hat.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] mm/gup: disallow GUP writing to file-backed mappings
 by default

On 28.04.23 18:09, Kirill A . Shutemov wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 05:43:52PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 28.04.23 17:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 28.04.23 17:33, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 05:23:29PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Security is the primary case where we have historically closed uAPI
>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As this patch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Does not tackle GUP-fast
>>>>>> 2) Does not take care of !FOLL_LONGTERM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not convinced by the security argument in regard to this patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we want to sells this as a security thing, we have to block it
>>>>>> *completely* and then CC stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding GUP-fast, to fix the issue there as well, I guess we could do
>>>>> something similar as I did in gup_must_unshare():
>>>>>
>>>>> If we're in GUP-fast (no VMA), and want to pin a !anon page writable,
>>>>> fallback to ordinary GUP. IOW, if we don't know, better be safe.
>>>>
>>>> How do we determine it's non-anon in the first place? The check is on the
>>>> VMA. We could do it by following page tables down to folio and checking
>>>> folio->mapping for PAGE_MAPPING_ANON I suppose?
>>>
>>> PageAnon(page) can be called from GUP-fast after grabbing a reference.
>>> See gup_must_unshare().
>>
>> IIRC, PageHuge() can also be called from GUP-fast and could special-case
>> hugetlb eventually, as it's table while we hold a (temporary) reference.
>> Shmem might be not so easy ...
> 
> page->mapping->a_ops should be enough to whitelist whatever fs you want.
> 

The issue is how to stabilize that from GUP-fast, such that we can 
safely dereference the mapping. Any idea?

At least for anon page I know that page->mapping only gets cleared when 
freeing the page, and we don't dereference the mapping but only check a 
single flag stored alongside the mapping. Therefore, PageAnon() is fine 
in GUP-fast context.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb