linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/40] Memory allocation profiling

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Date:   Wed, 3 May 2023 13:44:56 -0400
From:   Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>
To:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/40] Memory allocation profiling

On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 06:35:49AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Kent.
> 
> On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 04:05:08AM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > No, we're still waiting on the tracing people to _demonstrate_, not
> > claim, that this is at all possible in a comparable way with tracing. 
> 
> So, we (meta) happen to do stuff like this all the time in the fleet to hunt
> down tricky persistent problems like memory leaks, ref leaks, what-have-you.
> In recent kernels, with kprobe and BPF, our ability to debug these sorts of
> problems has improved a great deal. Below, I'm attaching a bcc script I used
> to hunt down, IIRC, a double vfree. It's not exactly for a leak but leaks
> can follow the same pattern.
> 
> There are of course some pros and cons to this approach:
> 
> Pros:
> 
> * The framework doesn't really have any runtime overhead, so we can have it
>   deployed in the entire fleet and debug wherever problem is.
> 
> * It's fully flexible and programmable which enables non-trivial filtering
>   and summarizing to be done inside kernel w/ BPF as necessary, which is
>   pretty handy for tracking high frequency events.
> 
> * BPF is pretty performant. Dedicated built-in kernel code can do better of
>   course but BPF's jit compiled code & its data structures are fast enough.
>   I don't remember any time this was a problem.

You're still going to have the inherent overhead a separate index of
outstanding memory allocations, so that frees can be decremented to the
correct callsite.

The BPF approach is going to be _way_ higher overhead if you try to use
it as a general profiler, like this is.