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Date:   Sat, 6 May 2023 09:31:52 +1000
From:   Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
To:     Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>
Cc:     John Garry <john.g.garry@...cle.com>, axboe@...nel.dk,
        kbusch@...nel.org, hch@....de, sagi@...mberg.me,
        martin.petersen@...cle.com, djwong@...nel.org,
        viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, brauner@...nel.org, dchinner@...hat.com,
        jejb@...ux.ibm.com, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, paul@...l-moore.com,
        jmorris@...ei.org, serge@...lyn.com,
        Himanshu Madhani <himanshu.madhani@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/16] block: Add atomic write operations to
 request_queue limits

On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 10:47:19PM +0000, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 08:26:23AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > ok, we can do that but would also then make statx field 64b. I'm fine with
> > > that if it is wise to do so - I don't don't want to wastefully use up an
> > > extra 2 x 32b in struct statx.
> > 
> > Why do we need specific varibles for DIO atomic write alignment
> > limits? We already have direct IO alignment and size constraints in statx(),
> > so why wouldn't we just reuse those variables when the user requests
> > atomic limits for DIO?
> > 
> > i.e. if STATX_DIOALIGN is set, we return normal DIO alignment
> > constraints. If STATX_DIOALIGN_ATOMIC is set, we return the atomic
> > DIO alignment requirements in those variables.....
> > 
> > Yes, we probably need the dio max size to be added to statx for
> > this. Historically speaking, I wanted statx to support this in the
> > first place because that's what we were already giving userspace
> > with XFS_IOC_DIOINFO and we already knew that atomic IO when it came
> > along would require a bound maximum IO size much smaller than normal
> > DIO limits.  i.e.:
> > 
> > struct dioattr {
> >         __u32           d_mem;          /* data buffer memory alignment */
> >         __u32           d_miniosz;      /* min xfer size                */
> >         __u32           d_maxiosz;      /* max xfer size                */
> > };
> > 
> > where d_miniosz defined the alignment and size constraints for DIOs.
> > 
> > If we simply document that STATX_DIOALIGN_ATOMIC returns minimum
> > (unit) atomic IO size and alignment in statx->dio_offset_align (as
> > per STATX_DIOALIGN) and the maximum atomic IO size in
> > statx->dio_max_iosize, then we don't burn up anywhere near as much
> > space in the statx structure....
> 
> I don't think that's how statx() is meant to work.  The request mask is a bitmask, and the user can
> request an arbitrary combination of different items.  For example, the user could request both
> STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_WRITE_ATOMIC at the same time.  That doesn't work if different items share
> the same fields.

Sure it does - what is contained in the field on return is defined
by the result mask. In this case, whatever the filesystem puts in
the DIO fields will match which flag it asserts in the result mask.

i.e. if the application wants RWF_ATOMIC and so asks for STATX_DIOALIGN |
STATX_DIOALIGN_ATOMIC in the request mask then:

- if the filesystem does not support RWF_ATOMIC it fills in the
  normal DIO alingment values and puts STATX_DIOALIGN in the result
  mask.

  Now the application knows that it can't use RWF_ATOMIC, and it
  doesn't need to do another statx() call to get the dio alignment
  values it needs.

- if the filesystem supports RWF_ATOMIC, it fills in the values with
  the atomic DIO constraints and puts STATX_DIOALIGN_ATOMIC in the
  result mask.

  Now the application knows it can use RWF_ATOMIC and has the atomic
  DIO constraints in the dio alignment fields returned.

This uses the request/result masks exactly as intended, yes?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@...morbit.com

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