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Date:   Mon, 8 May 2023 19:47:53 +0200
From:   Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
To:     Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@...group.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshan.ljs@...group.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
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        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
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        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>, Song Liu <song@...nel.org>,
        Julian Pidancet <julian.pidancet@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 31/43] x86/modules: Adapt module loading for PIE support

On Mon, 8 May 2023 at 13:45, Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@...group.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 05:16:34PM +0800, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 May 2023 at 10:38, Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@...group.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 03:29:32AM +0800, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 10:53, Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@...group.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Adapt module loading to support PIE relocations. No GOT is generared for
> > > > > module, all the GOT entry of got references in module should exist in
> > > > > kernel GOT.  Currently, there is only one usable got reference for
> > > > > __fentry__().
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't think this is the right approach. We should permit GOTPCREL
> > > > relocations properly, which means making them point to a location in
> > > > memory that carries the absolute address of the symbol. There are
> > > > several ways to go about that, but perhaps the simplest way is to make
> > > > the symbol address in ksymtab a 64-bit absolute value (but retain the
> > > > PC32 references for the symbol name and the symbol namespace name).
> > > > That way, you can always resolve such GOTPCREL relocations by pointing
> > > > it to the ksymtab entry. Another option would be to take inspiration
> > > > from the PLT code we have on ARM and arm64 (and other architectures,
> > > > surely) and to count the GOT based relocations, allocate some extra
> > > > r/o module space for each, and allocate slots and populate them with
> > > > the right value as you fix up the relocations.
> > > >
> > > > Then, many such relocations can be relaxed at module load time if the
> > > > symbol is in range. IIUC, the module and kernel will still be inside
> > > > the same 2G window even after widening the KASLR range to 512G, so
> > > > most GOT loads can be converted into RIP relative LEA instructions.
> > > >
> > > > Note that this will also permit you to do things like
> > > >
> > > > #define PV_VCPU_PREEMPTED_ASM \
> > > >  "leaq __per_cpu_offset(%rip), %rax \n\t" \
> > > >  "movq (%rax,%rdi,8), %rax \n\t" \
> > > >  "addq steal_time@...PCREL(%rip), %rax \n\t" \
> > > >  "cmpb $0, " __stringify(KVM_STEAL_TIME_preempted) "(%rax) \n\t" \
> > > >  "setne %al\n\t"
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_PIE
> > > > + " pushq arch_rethook_trampoline@...PCREL(%rip)\n"
> > > > +#else
> > > > " pushq $arch_rethook_trampoline\n"
> > > > +#endif
> > > >
> > > > instead of having these kludgy push/pop sequences to free up temp registers.
> > > >
> > > > (FYI I have looked into this PIE linking just a few weeks ago [0] so
> > > > this is all rather fresh in my memory)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [0] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ardb/linux.git/log/?h=x86-pie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hi Ard,
> > > Thanks for providing the link, it has been very helpful for me as I am
> > > new to the topic of compilers.
> >
> > Happy to hear that.
> >
>
> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>
> > > One key difference I noticed is that you
> > > linked the kernel with "-pie" instead of "--emit-reloc". I also noticed
> > > that Thomas' initial patchset[0] used "-pie", but in RFC v3 [1], it
> > > switched to "--emit-reloc" in order to reduce dynamic relocation space
> > > on mapped memory.
> > >
> >
> > The problem with --emit-relocs is that the relocations emitted into
> > the binary may get out of sync with the actual code after the linker
> > has applied relocations.
> >
> > $ cat /tmp/a.s
> > foo:movq foo@...PCREL(%rip), %rax
> >
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -c -o /tmp/a.o /tmp/a.s
> > ard@...bale:~/linux$ x86_64-linux-gnu-objdump -dr /tmp/a.o
> >
> > /tmp/a.o:     file format elf64-x86-64
> >
> >
> > Disassembly of section .text:
> >
> > 0000000000000000 <foo>:
> >    0: 48 8b 05 00 00 00 00 mov    0x0(%rip),%rax        # 7 <foo+0x7>
> > 3: R_X86_64_REX_GOTPCRELX foo-0x4
> >
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -c -o /tmp/a.o /tmp/a.s
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-objdump -dr /tmp/a.o
> > 0000000000000000 <foo>:
> >    0: 48 8b 05 00 00 00 00 mov    0x0(%rip),%rax        # 7 <foo+0x7>
> > 3: R_X86_64_REX_GOTPCRELX foo-0x4
> >
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -o /tmp/a.elf -nostartfiles
> > -Wl,-no-pie,-q,--defsym,_start=0x0 /tmp/a.s
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-objdump -dr /tmp/a.elf
> > 0000000000401000 <foo>:
> >   401000: 48 c7 c0 00 10 40 00 mov    $0x401000,%rax
> > 401003: R_X86_64_32S foo
> >
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -o /tmp/a.elf -nostartfiles
> > -Wl,-q,--defsym,_start=0x0 /tmp/a.s
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-objdump -dr /tmp/a.elf
> > 0000000000001000 <foo>:
> >     1000: 48 8d 05 f9 ff ff ff lea    -0x7(%rip),%rax        # 1000 <foo>
> > 1003: R_X86_64_PC32 foo-0x4
> >
> > This all looks as expected. However, when using Clang, we end up with
> >
> > $ clang -target x86_64-linux-gnu -o /tmp/a.elf -nostartfiles
> > -fuse-ld=lld -Wl,--relax,-q,--defsym,_start=0x0 /tmp/a.s
> > $ x86_64-linux-gnu-objdump -dr /tmp/a.elf
> > 00000000000012c0 <foo>:
> >     12c0: 48 8d 05 f9 ff ff ff lea    -0x7(%rip),%rax        # 12c0 <foo>
> > 12c3: R_X86_64_REX_GOTPCRELX foo-0x4
> >
> > So in this case, what --emit-relocs gives us is not what is actually
> > in the binary. We cannot just ignore these either, given that they are
> > treated differently depending on whether the symbol is a per-CPU
> > symbol or not - in the former case, we need to perform a fixup if the
> > relaxed reference is RIP relative, and in the latter case, if the
> > relaxed reference is absolute.
> >
> With symbols hidden and the compile-time address of the kernel image
> kept in the top 2G, is it possible for the relaxed reference to be
> absolute, even if I keep the percpu section zero-mapping for SMP?  I
> didn't see absoulte relaxed reference after dropping
> "-mrelax-relocations=no" option.
>

If you link in PIE mode, you should never see absolute references
after relaxation.

> > On top of that, --emit-relocs does not cover the GOT, so we'd still
> > need to process that from the code explicitly.
> >
> Yes, so the relocs tool would process GOT, and generate
> R_X86_64_GLOB_DAT relocation for GOT entries in patch 27:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/d25c7644249355785365914398bdba1ed2c52468.1682673543.git.houwenlong.hwl@antgroup.com
>

Yes, something like that is needed. I'd lean towards generating the
reloc data directly instead of creating an artifiical RELA section
with GLOB_DAT relocations, but that is a minor detail.

> > In general, relying on --emit-relocs is kind of dodgy, and I think
> > combining PIE linking with --emit-relocs is a bad idea.
> >
> > > The another issue is that it requires the addition of the
> > > "-mrelax-relocations=no" option to support older compilers and linkers.
> >
> > Why? The decompressor is now linked in PIE mode so we should be able
> > to drop that. Or do you need to add is somewhere else?
> >
> I tried to use binutils 2.25 (mini version), it couldn't recognize
> R_X86_64_GOTPCRELX and R_X86_64_REX_GOTPCRELX.
>

I'm not sure that matters. If the assembler accepts @GOTPCREL
notation, it should generate the relocations that the linker can
understand. If the toolchain is not internally consistent in this
regard, I don't think it is our problem.

This might mean that we end up with more residual GOT entries than
with a more recent toolchain, but I don't think that is a big deal.

> > > R_X86_64_GOTPCRELX and R_X86_64_REX_GOTPCRELX relocations are supported
> > > in binutils 2.26 and later, but the mini version required for the kernel
> > > is 2.25. This option disables relocation relaxation, which makes GOT not
> > > empty. I also noticed this option in arch/x86/boot/compressed/Makefile
> > > with the reason given in [2]. Without relocation relaxation, GOT
> > > references would increase the size of GOT. Therefore, I do not want to
> > > use GOT reference in assembly directly.  However, I realized that the
> > > compiler could still generate GOT references in some cases such as
> > > "fentry" calls and stack canary references.
> > >
> >
> > The stack canary references are under discussion here [3]. I have also
> > sent a patch for kallsyms symbol references [4]. Beyond that, there
> > should be very few cases where GOT entries are emitted, so I don't
> > think this is fundamentally a problem.
> >
> > I haven't run into the __fentry__ issue myself: do you think we should
> > fix this in the compiler?
> >
> The issue about __fentry__ is that the compiler would generate 6-bytes
> indirect call through GOT with "-fPIE" option. However, the original
> ftrace nop patching assumes it is a 5-bytes direct call. And
> "-mnop-mcount" option is not compatiable with "-fPIE" option, so the
> complier woudn't patch it as nop.
>
> So we should patch it with one 5-bytes nop followed by one 1-byte nop,
> This way, ftrace can handle the previous 5-bytes as before. Also I have
> built PIE kernel with relocation relaxation on GCC, and the linker would
> relax it as following:
> ffffffff810018f0 <do_one_initcall>:
> ffffffff810018f0:       f3 0f 1e fa             endbr64
> ffffffff810018f4:       67 e8 a6 d6 05 00       addr32 call ffffffff8105efa0 <__fentry__>
>                         ffffffff810018f6: R_X86_64_PC32 __fentry__-0x4
>

But if fentry is a function symbol, I would not expect the codegen to
be different at all. Are you using -fno-plt?

> It still requires a different nop patching for ftrace. I notice
> "Optimize GOTPCRELX Relocations" chapter in x86-64 psABI, which suggests
> that the GOT indirect call can be relaxed as "call fentry nop" or "nop
> call fentry", it appears that the latter is chosen. If the linker could
> generate the former, then no fixup would be necessary for ftrace with
> PIE.
>

Right. I think this may be a result of __fentry__ not being subject to
the same rules wrt visibility etc, similar to __stack_chk_guard. These
are arguably compiler issues that could qualify as bugs, given that
these symbol references don't behave like ordinary symbol references.

> > > Regarding module loading, I agree that we should support GOT reference
> > > for the module itself. I will refactor it according to your suggestion.
> > >
> >
> > Excellent, good luck with that.
> >
> > However, you will still need to make a convincing case for why this is
> > all worth the trouble. Especially given that you disable the depth
> > tracking code, which I don't think should be mutually exclusive.
> >
> Actually, I could do relocation for it when apply patching for the
> depth tracking code. I'm not sure such case is common or not.
>

I think that alternatives patching in general would need to support
RIP relative references in the alternatives. The depth tracking
template is a bit different in this regard, and could be fixed more
easily, I think.

> > I am aware that this a rather tricky, and involves rewriting
> > RIP-relative per-CPU variable accesses, but it would be good to get a
> > discussion started on that topic, and figure out whether there is a
> > way forward there. Ignoring it is not going to help.
> >
> >
> I see that your PIE linking chose to put the per-cpu section in high
> kernel image address, I still keep it as zero-mapping. However, both are
> in the RIP-relative addressing range.
>

Pure PIE linking cannot support the zero mapping - it can only work
with --emit-relocs, which I was trying to avoid.

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