lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20230512230504.GF3223426@dread.disaster.area>
Date:   Sat, 13 May 2023 09:05:04 +1000
From:   Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
To:     Oliver Sang <oliver.sang@...el.com>
Cc:     Dave Chinner <dchinner@...hat.com>, oe-lkp@...ts.linux.dev,
        lkp@...el.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
        ying.huang@...el.com, feng.tang@...el.com, fengwei.yin@...el.com
Subject: Re: [linus:master] [xfs]  2edf06a50f:  fsmark.files_per_sec -5.7%
 regression

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 03:44:29PM +0800, Oliver Sang wrote:
> hi, Dave Chinner,
> 
> On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 05:10:53PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:54:33PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 10:13:19AM +0800, kernel test robot wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > kernel test robot noticed a -5.7% regression of fsmark.files_per_sec on:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > commit: 2edf06a50f5bbe664283f3c55c480fc013221d70 ("xfs: factor xfs_alloc_vextent_this_ag() for  _iterate_ags()")
> > > > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git master
> > > 
> > > This is just a refactoring patch and doesn't change any logic.
> > > Hence I'm sceptical that it actually resulted in a performance
> > > regression. Indeed, the profile indicates a significant change of
> > > behaviour in the allocator and I can't see how the commit above
> > > would cause anything like that.
> > > 
> > > Was this a result of a bisect? If so, what were the original kernel
> > > versions where the regression was detected?
> > 
> > Oh, CONFIG_XFS_DEBUG=y, which means:
> > 
> > static int
> > xfs_alloc_ag_vextent_lastblock(
> >         struct xfs_alloc_arg    *args,
> >         struct xfs_alloc_cur    *acur,
> >         xfs_agblock_t           *bno,
> >         xfs_extlen_t            *len,
> >         bool                    *allocated)
> > {
> >         int                     error;
> >         int                     i;
> > 
> > #ifdef DEBUG
> >         /* Randomly don't execute the first algorithm. */
> >         if (get_random_u32_below(2))
> >                 return 0;
> > #endif
> > 
> > We randomly chose a near block allocation strategy to use to improve
> > code coverage, not the optimal one for IO performance. Hence the CPU
> > usage and allocation patterns that impact IO performance are simply
> > not predictable or reproducable from run to run. So, yeah, trying to
> > bisect a minor difference in performance as a result of this
> > randomness will not be reliable....
> 
> Thanks a lot for guidance!
> 
> we plan to disable XFS_DEBUG (as well as XFS_WARN) in our performance tests.
> want to consult with you if this is the correct thing to do?

You can use XFS_WARN=y with performance tests - that elides all the
debug specific code that changes behaviour but leaves all the
ASSERT-based correctness checks in the code.

> and I guess we should still keep them in functional tests, am I right?

Yes.

> BTW, regarding this case, we tested again with disabling XFS_DEBUG (as well as
> XFS_WARN), kconfig is attached, only diff with last time is:
> -CONFIG_XFS_DEBUG=y
> -CONFIG_XFS_ASSERT_FATAL=y
> +# CONFIG_XFS_WARN is not set
> +# CONFIG_XFS_DEBUG is not set
> 
> but we still observed similar regression:
> 
> ecd788a92460eef4 2edf06a50f5bbe664283f3c55c4
> ---------------- ---------------------------
>          %stddev     %change         %stddev
>              \          |                \
>    8176057 ± 15%      +4.7%    8558110        fsmark.app_overhead
>      14484            -6.3%      13568        fsmark.files_per_sec

So the application spent 5% more CPU time in userspace, and the rate
the kernel processed IO went down by 6%. Seems to me like
everything is running slower, not just the kernel code....

>     100.50 ±  5%      +0.3%     100.83        turbostat.Avg_MHz
>       5.54 ± 11%      +0.3        5.82        turbostat.Busy%
>       1863 ± 19%      -6.9%       1733        turbostat.Bzy_MHz

Evidence that the CPU is running at a 7% lower clock rate when the
results are 6% slower is a bit suspicious to me. Shouldn't the CPU
clock rate be fixed to the same value for A-B performance regression
testing?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@...morbit.com

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ