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Message-ID: <CALzav=dRtju+-NaGiy7ok3chB=535bxNOqm8c+vOMCa9QKWHsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 16:24:49 -0700
From: David Matlack <dmatlack@...gle.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] KVM: x86/mmu: Convert "runtime" WARN_ON() assertions
to WARN_ON_ONCE()
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 4:18 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2023, David Matlack wrote:
> > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 04:59:13PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Convert all "runtime" assertions, i.e. assertions that can be triggered
> > > while running vCPUs, from WARN_ON() to WARN_ON_ONCE(). Every WARN in the
> > > MMU that is tied to running vCPUs, i.e. not contained to loading and
> > > initializing KVM, is likely to fire _a lot_ when it does trigger. E.g. if
> > > KVM ends up with a bug that causes a root to be invalidated before the
> > > page fault handler is invoked, pretty much _every_ page fault VM-Exit
> > > triggers the WARN.
> > >
> > > If a WARN is triggered frequently, the resulting spam usually causes a lot
> > > of damage of its own, e.g. consumes resources to log the WARN and pollutes
> > > the kernel log, often to the point where other useful information can be
> > > lost. In many case, the damage caused by the spam is actually worse than
> > > the bug itself, e.g. KVM can almost always recover from an unexpectedly
> > > invalid root.
> > >
> > > On the flip side, warning every time is rarely helpful for debug and
> > > triage, i.e. a single splat is usually sufficient to point a debugger in
> > > the right direction, and automated testing, e.g. syzkaller, typically runs
> > > with warn_on_panic=1, i.e. will never get past the first WARN anyways.
> >
> > On the topic of syzkaller, we should get them to test with
> > CONFIG_KVM_PROVE_MMU once it's available.
>
> +1
>
> > > Lastly, when an assertions fails multiple times, the stack traces in KVM
> > > are almost always identical, i.e. the full splat only needs to be captured
> > > once. And _if_ there is value in captruing information about the failed
> > > assert, a ratelimited printk() is sufficient and less likely to rack up a
> > > large amount of collateral damage.
> >
> > These are all good arguments and I think they apply to KVM_MMU_WARN_ON()
> > as well. Should we convert that to _ONCE() too?
>
> Already done in this patch :-) I didn't call it out because that warn also falls
> under the "runtime assertions" umbrella.
Doh! Indeed. I was expecting to see KVM_MMU_WARN_ON() change to
KVM_MMU_WARN_ON_ONCE().
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