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Message-ID: <57f86cba-72f1-2573-3c5a-388614d8415a@efficios.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 10:32:27 -0400
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
Ricardo Martinez <ricardo.martinez@...ux.intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/13] list.h: Fix parentheses around macro pointer
parameter use
On 2023-05-12 07:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 09:46:40AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> On 2023-05-08 08:16, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> The only use I found that would break is as follows:
>>
>> LIST_HEAD(testlist);
>>
>> int f2(void)
>> {
>> return 1;
>> }
>>
>> #define eval(...) __VA_ARGS__
>>
>> void f(void)
>> {
>> struct list_head *pos;
>>
>> list_for_each(pos, eval(f2(), &testlist)) {
>> //...
>> }
>> }
>>
>> Because "eval()" will evaluate "f(), &testlist" with comma and all, without
>> enclosing parentheses.
>>
>> So the question is: do we want to support this kind-of-odd macro evaluation,
>> considering that it requires adding parentheses around pretty much all macro
>> parameters when used as expressions between commas?
>
> Similar question can be asked for your initial motivation to support indirect
> pointers. I found the double pointer as weird as this macro case. But it can be
> only me. Hence I left this to the more experienced developers to express their
> opinions.
>
The main motivation behind my changes is to make macro code consistent,
and to eliminate classes of issues that can arise from unexpected
operator precedence around use of macro arguments that lack parentheses.
The examples I provide in the commit messages are just instances showing
how the lack of parentheses can lead to unexpected effects due to
operator precedence.
My end goal is not to "support" specific use-cases. My goal is to
eliminate inconsistency, increase robustness of the kernel macros, and
lessen the cognitive burden that comes with using and maintaining those
macros.
I hope that we can spend less time figuring out operator precedence
corner-cases and more brain power thinking about and documenting things
that really matter like memory barriers and synchronization.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
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