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Date:   Mon, 15 May 2023 13:28:22 -0500
From:   Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
To:     Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de>, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
        Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>,
        Krzysztof Wilczy??ski <kw@...ux.com>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] PCI: Add concurrency safe clear_and_set variants
 for LNKCTL{,2}

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 02:59:42PM +0300, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Sun, 14 May 2023, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 11:25:32AM +0300, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> > > On Thu, 11 May 2023, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 10:55:06AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > I didn't see the prior discussion with Lukas, so maybe this was
> > > > > answered there, but is there any reason not to add locking to
> > > > > pcie_capability_clear_and_set_word() and friends directly?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It would be nice to avoid having to decide whether to use the locked
> > > > > or unlocked versions.
> > > > 
> > > > I think we definitely want to also offer lockless accessors which
> > > > can be used in hotpaths such as interrupt handlers if the accessed
> > > > registers don't need any locking (e.g. because there are no concurrent
> > > > accesses).
> > > > ...

> All PCI_EXP_SLTSTA ones looked not real RMW but ACK bits type of writes

PCI_EXP_SLTSTA, PCI_EXP_LNKSTA, etc are typically RW1C and do not need
the usual RMW locking (which I think is what you were saying).

> > ...
> > What I think is unnecessary and counterproductive is to add wholesale
> > locking of any access to the PCI Express Capability Structure.
> > 
> > It's fine to have a single spinlock, but I'd suggest only using it
> > for registers which are actually accessed concurrently by multiple
> > places in the kernel.
> 
> While it does feel entirely unnecessary layer of complexity to me, it would 
> be possible to rename the original pcie_capability_clear_and_set_word() to 
> pcie_capability_clear_and_set_word_unlocked() and add this into 
> include/linux/pci.h:
> 
> static inline int pcie_capability_clear_and_set_word(struct pci_dev *dev,
> 					int pos, u16 clear, u16 set)
> {
> 	if (pos == PCI_EXP_LNKCTL || pos == PCI_EXP_LNKCTL2 ||
> 	    pos == PCI_EXP_RTCTL)
> 		pcie_capability_clear_and_set_word_locked(...);
> 	else
> 		pcie_capability_clear_and_set_word_unlocked(...);
> }
> 
> It would keep the interface exactly the same but protect only a selectable 
> set of registers. As pos is always a constant, the compiler should be able 
> to optimize all the dead code away.
> 
> Would that be ok then?

Sounds like you have a pretty strong opinion, Lukas, but I guess I
don't really understand the value of having locked and unlocked
variants of RMW accessors.  Config accesses are relatively slow and I
don't think they're used in performance-sensitive paths.  I would
expect the lock to be uncontended and cheap relative to the config
access itself, but I have no actual numbers to back up my speculation.
Is the performance win worth the extra complexity in callers?

Bjorn

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