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Message-ID: <7f81c053-ba60-a4d2-23d6-d0f032acbcff@189.cn>
Date:   Mon, 22 May 2023 19:55:45 +0800
From:   Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@....cn>
To:     Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com>,
        Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@....cn>,
        David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>,
        Li Yi <liyi@...ngson.cn>
Cc:     Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org" <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        "loongson-kernel@...ts.loongnix.cn" 
        <loongson-kernel@...ts.loongnix.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/drm_vblank.c: avoid unsigned int to signed int cast

Hi,

On 2023/5/22 19:29, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023, Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@....cn> wrote:
>> On 2023/5/17 18:59, David Laight wrote:
>>> From: 15330273260@....cn
>>>> Sent: 16 May 2023 18:30
>>>>
>>>> From: Sui Jingfeng <suijingfeng@...ngson.cn>
>>>>
>>>> Both mode->crtc_htotal and mode->crtc_vtotal are u16 type,
>>>> mode->crtc_htotal * mode->crtc_vtotal will results a unsigned type.
>>> Nope, u16 gets promoted to 'signed int' and the result of the
>>> multiply is also signed.
>> I believe that signed or unsigned is dependent on the declaration.
>>
>> I am talk about the math, while you are talking about compiler.
>>
>> I admit that u16 gets promoted to 'signed int' is true, but this is
>> irrelevant,
>>
>> the point is how to understand the returned value.
>>
>>
>> How does the compiler generate the code is one thing, how do we
>> interpret the result is another
>>
>> How does the compiler generate the code is NOT determined by us, while
>> how do we interpret the result is determined by us.
>>
>>
>> I believe that using a u32 type to interpret the result(u16 * u16) is
>> always true, it is true in the perspective of *math*.
>>
>> Integer promotions is the details of C program language. If the result
>> of the multiply is signed, then there are risks that
>>
>> the result is negative, what's the benefit to present this risk to the
>> programmer?
>>
>> What's the benefit to tell me(and others) that u16 * u16 yield a signed
>> value? and can be negative?
>>
>> Using int type as the return type bring concerns to the programmer and
>> the user of the function,
>>
>> even though this is not impossible in practice.
> In general, do not use unsigned types in arithmethic to avoid negative
> values, because most people will be tripped over by integer promotion
> rules, and you'll get negative values anyway.
>
> I'll bet most people will be surprised to see what this prints:
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <stdint.h>
>
> int main(void)
> {
> 	uint16_t x = 0xffff;
> 	uint16_t y = 0xffff;
> 	uint64_t z = x * y;
>
> 	printf("0x%016lx\n", z);
> 	printf("%ld\n", z);

Here, please replace the "%ld\n" with the "%lu\n", then you will see the 
difference.

you are casting the variable 'z' to signed value,  "%d" is for printing 
signed value, and "%u" is for printing unsigned value.


Your simple code explained exactly why you are still in confusion,

that is u16 * u16  can yield a negative value if you use the int as the 
return type. Because it overflowed.

> 	printf("%d\n", x * y);
> }
>
> And it's not that different from what you have below. Your patch doesn't
> change anything, and doesn't make it any less confusing.
>
> BR,
> Jani.
>
>
>>>> Using a u32 is enough to store the result, but considering that the
>>>> result will be casted to u64 soon after. We use a u64 type directly.
>>>> So there no need to cast it to signed type and cast back then.
>>> ....
>>>> -		int frame_size = mode->crtc_htotal * mode->crtc_vtotal;
>>>> +		u64 frame_size = mode->crtc_htotal * mode->crtc_vtotal;
>>> ...
>>>> -		framedur_ns = div_u64((u64) frame_size * 1000000, dotclock);
>>>> +		framedur_ns = div_u64(frame_size * 1000000, dotclock);
>>> The (u64) cast is there to extend the value to 64bits, not
>>> because the original type is signed.
>> Sorry about my expression, I think my sentence did not mention anything
>> about 'because the original type is signed'.
>>
>> In the contrary, my patch eliminated the concerns to the reviewer. It
>> say that the results of the multiply can't be negative.
>>
>> My intent is to tell the compiler we want a unsigned return type, but
>> GCC emit 'imul' instruction for the multiply......
>>
>> I'm using u64 as the return type, because div_u64() function accept a
>> u64 type value as its first argument.
>>
>>> The compiler will detect that the old code is a 32x32 multiply
>>> where a 64bit result is needed, that may not be true for the
>>> changed code (it would need to track back as far as the u16s).
>> I don't believe my code could be wrong.
>>
>> when you use the word 'may', you are saying that it could be wrong after
>> apply my patch.
>>
>> Then you have to find at least one test example to prove you point, in
>> which case my codes generate wrong results.
>>
>> Again I don't believe you could find one.
>>
>>> It is not uncommon to force a 64bit result from a multiply
>>> by making the constant 64bit. As in:
>>> 	div_u64(frame_size * 1000000ULL, dotclock);
>> In fact, After apply this patch, the ASM code generated is same with before.
>>
>> This may because the GCC is smart enough to generate optimized code in
>> either case,
>>
>> I think It could be different with a different optimization-level.
>>
>> I have tested this patch on three different architecture,  I can not
>> find error still.
>>
>> Below is the assembly extract on x86-64: because GCC generate the same
>> code in either case,
>>
>> so I pasted only one copy here.
>>
>>
>> 0000000000000530 <drm_calc_timestamping_constants>:
>>        530:    f3 0f 1e fa              endbr64
>>        534:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  539
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x9>
>>        539:    55                       push   %rbp
>>        53a:    48 89 e5                 mov    %rsp,%rbp
>>        53d:    41 57                    push   %r15
>>        53f:    41 56                    push   %r14
>>        541:    41 55                    push   %r13
>>        543:    41 54                    push   %r12
>>        545:    53                       push   %rbx
>>        546:    48 83 ec 18              sub    $0x18,%rsp
>>        54a:    4c 8b 3f                 mov    (%rdi),%r15
>>        54d:    41 8b 87 6c 01 00 00     mov    0x16c(%r15),%eax
>>        554:    85 c0                    test   %eax,%eax
>>        556:    0f 84 ec 00 00 00        je     648
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x118>
>>        55c:    44 8b 87 90 00 00 00     mov    0x90(%rdi),%r8d
>>        563:    49 89 fc                 mov    %rdi,%r12
>>        566:    44 39 c0                 cmp    %r8d,%eax
>>        569:    0f 86 40 01 00 00        jbe    6af
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x17f>
>>        56f:    44 8b 76 1c              mov    0x1c(%rsi),%r14d
>>        573:    49 8b 8f 40 01 00 00     mov    0x140(%r15),%rcx
>>        57a:    48 89 f3                 mov    %rsi,%rbx
>>        57d:    45 85 f6                 test   %r14d,%r14d
>>        580:    0f 8e d5 00 00 00        jle    65b
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x12b>
>>        586:    0f b7 43 2a              movzwl 0x2a(%rbx),%eax
>>        58a:    49 63 f6                 movslq %r14d,%rsi
>>        58d:    31 d2                    xor    %edx,%edx
>>        58f:    48 89 c7                 mov    %rax,%rdi
>>        592:    48 69 c0 40 42 0f 00     imul   $0xf4240,%rax,%rax
>>        599:    48 f7 f6                 div    %rsi
>>        59c:    31 d2                    xor    %edx,%edx
>>        59e:    48 89 45 d0              mov    %rax,-0x30(%rbp)
>>        5a2:    0f b7 43 38              movzwl 0x38(%rbx),%eax
>>        5a6:    0f af c7                 imul   %edi,%eax
>>        5a9:    48 98                    cltq
>>        5ab:    48 69 c0 40 42 0f 00     imul   $0xf4240,%rax,%rax
>>        5b2:    48 f7 f6                 div    %rsi
>>        5b5:    41 89 c5                 mov    %eax,%r13d
>>        5b8:    f6 43 18 10              testb  $0x10,0x18(%rbx)
>>        5bc:    74 0a                    je     5c8
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x98>
>>        5be:    41 c1 ed 1f              shr    $0x1f,%r13d
>>        5c2:    41 01 c5                 add    %eax,%r13d
>>        5c5:    41 d1 fd                 sar    %r13d
>>        5c8:    4b 8d 04 c0              lea    (%r8,%r8,8),%rax
>>        5cc:    48 89 de                 mov    %rbx,%rsi
>>        5cf:    49 8d 3c 40              lea    (%r8,%rax,2),%rdi
>>        5d3:    8b 45 d0                 mov    -0x30(%rbp),%eax
>>        5d6:    48 c1 e7 04              shl    $0x4,%rdi
>>        5da:    48 01 cf                 add    %rcx,%rdi
>>        5dd:    89 47 78                 mov    %eax,0x78(%rdi)
>>        5e0:    48 83 ef 80              sub $0xffffffffffffff80,%rdi
>>        5e4:    44 89 6f f4              mov    %r13d,-0xc(%rdi)
>>        5e8:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  5ed
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0xbd>
>>        5ed:    0f b7 53 2e              movzwl 0x2e(%rbx),%edx
>>        5f1:    0f b7 43 38              movzwl 0x38(%rbx),%eax
>>        5f5:    44 0f b7 4b 2a           movzwl 0x2a(%rbx),%r9d
>>        5fa:    45 8b 44 24 60           mov    0x60(%r12),%r8d
>>        5ff:    4d 85 ff                 test   %r15,%r15
>>        602:    0f 84 87 00 00 00        je     68f
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x15f>
>>        608:    49 8b 77 08              mov    0x8(%r15),%rsi
>>        60c:    52                       push   %rdx
>>        60d:    31 ff                    xor    %edi,%edi
>>        60f:    48 c7 c1 00 00 00 00     mov    $0x0,%rcx
>>        616:    50                       push   %rax
>>        617:    31 d2                    xor    %edx,%edx
>>        619:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  61e
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0xee>
>>        61e:    45 8b 44 24 60           mov    0x60(%r12),%r8d
>>        623:    4d 8b 7f 08              mov    0x8(%r15),%r15
>>        627:    5f                       pop    %rdi
>>        628:    41 59                    pop    %r9
>>        62a:    8b 45 d0                 mov    -0x30(%rbp),%eax
>>        62d:    48 c7 c1 00 00 00 00     mov    $0x0,%rcx
>>        634:    4c 89 fe                 mov    %r15,%rsi
>>        637:    45 89 f1                 mov    %r14d,%r9d
>>        63a:    31 d2                    xor    %edx,%edx
>>        63c:    31 ff                    xor    %edi,%edi
>>        63e:    50                       push   %rax
>>        63f:    41 55                    push   %r13
>>        641:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  646
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x116>
>>        646:    59                       pop    %rcx
>>        647:    5e                       pop    %rsi
>>        648:    48 8d 65 d8              lea    -0x28(%rbp),%rsp
>>        64c:    5b                       pop    %rbx
>>        64d:    41 5c                    pop    %r12
>>        64f:    41 5d                    pop    %r13
>>        651:    41 5e                    pop    %r14
>>        653:    41 5f                    pop    %r15
>>        655:    5d                       pop    %rbp
>>        656:    e9 00 00 00 00           jmpq   65b
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x12b>
>>        65b:    41 8b 54 24 60           mov    0x60(%r12),%edx
>>        660:    49 8b 7f 08              mov    0x8(%r15),%rdi
>>        664:    44 89 45 c4              mov    %r8d,-0x3c(%rbp)
>>        668:    45 31 ed                 xor    %r13d,%r13d
>>        66b:    48 c7 c6 00 00 00 00     mov    $0x0,%rsi
>>        672:    48 89 4d c8              mov    %rcx,-0x38(%rbp)
>>        676:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  67b
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x14b>
>>        67b:    c7 45 d0 00 00 00 00     movl   $0x0,-0x30(%rbp)
>>        682:    44 8b 45 c4              mov    -0x3c(%rbp),%r8d
>>        686:    48 8b 4d c8              mov    -0x38(%rbp),%rcx
>>        68a:    e9 39 ff ff ff           jmpq   5c8
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x98>
>>        68f:    52                       push   %rdx
>>        690:    48 c7 c1 00 00 00 00     mov    $0x0,%rcx
>>        697:    31 d2                    xor    %edx,%edx
>>        699:    31 f6                    xor    %esi,%esi
>>        69b:    50                       push   %rax
>>        69c:    31 ff                    xor    %edi,%edi
>>        69e:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  6a3
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x173>
>>        6a3:    45 8b 44 24 60           mov    0x60(%r12),%r8d
>>        6a8:    58                       pop    %rax
>>        6a9:    5a                       pop    %rdx
>>        6aa:    e9 7b ff ff ff           jmpq   62a
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0xfa>
>>        6af:    49 8b 7f 08              mov    0x8(%r15),%rdi
>>        6b3:    4c 8b 67 50              mov    0x50(%rdi),%r12
>>        6b7:    4d 85 e4                 test   %r12,%r12
>>        6ba:    74 25                    je     6e1
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x1b1>
>>        6bc:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  6c1
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x191>
>>        6c1:    48 c7 c1 00 00 00 00     mov    $0x0,%rcx
>>        6c8:    4c 89 e2                 mov    %r12,%rdx
>>        6cb:    48 c7 c7 00 00 00 00     mov    $0x0,%rdi
>>        6d2:    48 89 c6                 mov    %rax,%rsi
>>        6d5:    e8 00 00 00 00           callq  6da
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x1aa>
>>        6da:    0f 0b                    ud2
>>        6dc:    e9 67 ff ff ff           jmpq   648
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x118>
>>        6e1:    4c 8b 27                 mov    (%rdi),%r12
>>        6e4:    eb d6                    jmp    6bc
>> <drm_calc_timestamping_constants+0x18c>
>>        6e6:    66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00     nopw   %cs:0x0(%rax,%rax,1)
>>        6ed:    00 00 00
>>        6f0:    90                       nop
>>        6f1:    90                       nop
>>        6f2:    90                       nop
>>        6f3:    90                       nop
>>        6f4:    90                       nop
>>        6f5:    90                       nop
>>        6f6:    90                       nop
>>        6f7:    90                       nop
>>        6f8:    90                       nop
>>        6f9:    90                       nop
>>        6fa:    90                       nop
>>        6fb:    90                       nop
>>        6fc:    90                       nop
>>        6fd:    90                       nop
>>        6fe:    90                       nop
>>        6ff:    90                       nop
>>
>>
>>> 	David
>>>
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