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Message-ID: <9af7a84d-929c-0d1b-bd91-f8493d549be0@intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 30 May 2023 12:03:52 -0700
From:   Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V6 01/14] x86/sev: Add a #HV exception handler

On 5/30/23 11:52, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> That should really say that a nested #HV should never be raised by the
>> hypervisor, but if it is, then the guest should detect that and
>> self-terminate knowing that the hypervisor is possibly being malicious.
> I've yet to see code that can do that reliably.

By "#HV should never be raised by the hypervisor", I think Tom means:

	#HV can and will be raised by malicious hypervisors and the
	guest must be able to unambiguously handle it in a way that
	will not result in the guest getting rooted.

Right? ;)

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