linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH net-next v3 05/11] splice, net: Fix SPLICE_F_MORE signalling in splice_direct_to

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Message-ID: <CAHk-=wg-9vyvbQPy_Aa=BQmkdX7b=ANinNUU+22tMELuxmH99g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 2 Jun 2023 12:36:34 -0400
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@...cle.com>,
        Boris Pismenny <borisp@...dia.com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 05/11] splice, net: Fix SPLICE_F_MORE
 signalling in splice_direct_to_actor()

On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 11:08 AM David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> Fix this by making splice_direct_to_actor() always signal SPLICE_F_MORE if
> we haven't yet hit the requested operation size.

Well, I certainly like this patch better than the previous versions,
just because it doesn't add random fd-specific code.

That said, I think it might be worth really documenting the behavior,
particularly for files where the kernel *could* know "the file is at
EOF, no more data".

I hope that if user space wants to splice() a file to a socket, said
user space would have done an 'fstat()' and actually pass in the file
size as the length to splice(). Because if they do, I think this
simplified patch does the right thing automatically.

But if user space instead passes in a "maximally big len", and just
depends on the kernel then doing tha

                ret = do_splice_to(in, &pos, pipe, len, flags);
                if (unlikely(ret <= 0))
                        goto out_release;

to stop splicing at EOF, then the last splice_write() will have had
SPLICE_F_MORE set, even though no more data is coming from the file,
of course.

And I think that's fine. But wasn't that effectively what the old code
was already doing because 'read_len' was smaller than 'len'? I thought
that was what you wanted to fix?

IOW, I thought you wanted to clear SPLICE_F_MORE when we hit EOF. This
still doesn't do that.

So now I'm confused about what your "fix" is. Your patch doesn't
actually seem to change existing behavior in splice_direct_to_actor().

I was expecting you to actually pass the 'sd' down to do_splice_to()
and then to ->splice_read(), so that the splice_read() function could
say "I have no more", and clear it.

But you didn't do that.

Am I misreading something, or did I miss another patch?

               Linus