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Message-ID: <20230608-cobbler-giving-e0fac2185e11@spud>
Date:   Thu, 8 Jun 2023 20:30:28 +0100
From:   Conor Dooley <conor@...nel.org>
To:     Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
Cc:     Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@...rochip.com>,
        Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@...o.com>,
        Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>,
        Andrew Jones <ajones@...tanamicro.com>, palmer@...belt.com,
        Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>,
        Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@....com>,
        Anup Patel <apatel@...tanamicro.com>,
        Atish Patra <atishp@...shpatra.org>,
        Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@...c27.com>,
        Rick Chen <rick@...estech.com>, Leo <ycliang@...estech.com>,
        linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org, qemu-riscv@...gnu.org,
        u-boot@...ts.denx.de, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] dt-bindings: riscv: deprecate riscv,isa

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 01:15:37PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 03:12:12PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 10:42:34PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 02:30:53PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why not just have something like
> > > > 
> > > > mycpu {
> > > > 	...
> > > > 	riscv,isa {
> > > > 		i;
> > > > 		m;
> > > > 		a;
> > > > 		zicsr;
> > > > 		...
> 
> I prefer property names be globally unique. The tools are geared towards 
> that too. That's largely a symptom of having 0 type information in the 
> DT.
> 
> For example if you had an extension called 'reg', it would be a problem.

Per the current ISA rules, that'd not be valid. But then again, I do
have trust issues & it's not like "reg" is the only property name in DT
land.

> > > Naming of the node aside (perhaps that could be riscv,isa-extensions)
> > > there's not something hitting me immediately as to why that is a no-no.
> > > If the size is a concern, this would certainly be more efficient & not
> > > like the probing would be anything other than trivial more difficult
> > > what I have in my proposal.
> > 
> > Having started messing around with this, one of the main advantages, to
> > me, of this approach is proper validation.
> > cpus.yaml has additionalProperties: true in it, which would have had to
> > be sorted out, or worked around, but creating a child-node with the
> > properties in it allows setting additionalProperties: false.
> 
> That's an issue on my radar to fix. I started that for the Arm cpus.yaml 
> a while back. Sadly it involves adding all the misc properties vendors 
> added. It's not a lot, but still better to get in front of that for 
> Risc-V.

Yeah, guess I can append that to my todo list.

> > > Rob's AFK at the moment, and I was hoping that he would take a look at
> > > the idea, so I won't respin til he is back, but I'll give this a go in
> > > the interim.
> > 
> > Mechanically, the conversion of the patch isn't difficult, but I'll still
> > wait for Rob to come back before sending a v2. But that v2 will more
> > than likely implement your suggestion.
> 
> I haven't read the whole thread, but the initial proposal looks okay to 
> me.
> 
> Another way you could do this is a list of strings:
> 
> riscv,isa-ext = "i", "m", "zicsr";
> 
> I think we have a helper to test is a string in the list.

Perhaps I should've waited a bit longer than a month for a v2 - I sent
one this afternoon doing what Sean suggested:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230608-sitting-bath-31eddc03c5a5@spud/

I'll do some poking at the strings and see what I think of it.

Cheers,
Conor.

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