lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CAEivzxeZ6fDgYMnjk21qXYz13tHqZa8rP-cZ2jdxkY0eX+dOjw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:46:02 +0200
From:   Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@...onical.com>
To:     Xiubo Li <xiubli@...hat.com>
Cc:     Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
        Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@...hat.com>, stgraber@...ntu.com,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@...il.com>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>, ceph-devel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] ceph: support idmapped mounts

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 3:43 AM Xiubo Li <xiubli@...hat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 6/9/23 18:12, Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 12:00 PM Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 10:59:19AM +0200, Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 3:57 AM Xiubo Li <xiubli@...hat.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/8/23 23:42, Alexander Mikhalitsyn wrote:
> >>>>> Dear friends,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This patchset was originally developed by Christian Brauner but I'll continue
> >>>>> to push it forward. Christian allowed me to do that :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This feature is already actively used/tested with LXD/LXC project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Git tree (based on https://github.com/ceph/ceph-client.git master):
> >>> Hi Xiubo!
> >>>
> >>>> Could you rebase these patches to 'testing' branch ?
> >>> Will do in -v6.
> >>>
> >>>> And you still have missed several places, for example the following cases:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>      1    269  fs/ceph/addr.c <<ceph_netfs_issue_op_inline>>
> >>>>                req = ceph_mdsc_create_request(mdsc, CEPH_MDS_OP_GETATTR,
> >>>> mode);
> >>> +
> >>>
> >>>>      2    389  fs/ceph/dir.c <<ceph_readdir>>
> >>>>                req = ceph_mdsc_create_request(mdsc, op, USE_AUTH_MDS);
> >>> +
> >>>
> >>>>      3    789  fs/ceph/dir.c <<ceph_lookup>>
> >>>>                req = ceph_mdsc_create_request(mdsc, op, USE_ANY_MDS);
> >>> We don't have an idmapping passed to lookup from the VFS layer. As I
> >>> mentioned before, it's just impossible now.
> >> ->lookup() doesn't deal with idmappings and really can't otherwise you
> >> risk ending up with inode aliasing which is really not something you
> >> want. IOW, you can't fill in inode->i_{g,u}id based on a mount's
> >> idmapping as inode->i_{g,u}id absolutely needs to be a filesystem wide
> >> value. So better not even risk exposing the idmapping in there at all.
> > Thanks for adding, Christian!
> >
> > I agree, every time when we use an idmapping we need to be careful with
> > what we map. AFAIU, inode->i_{g,u}id should be based on the filesystem
> > idmapping (not mount),
> > but in this case, Xiubo want's current_fs{u,g}id to be mapped
> > according to an idmapping.
> > Anyway, it's impossible at now and IMHO, until we don't have any
> > practical use case where
> > UID/GID-based path restriction is used in combination with idmapped
> > mounts it's not worth to
> > make such big changes in the VFS layer.
> >
> > May be I'm not right, but it seems like UID/GID-based path restriction
> > is not a widespread
> > feature and I can hardly imagine it to be used with the container
> > workloads (for instance),
> > because it will require to always keep in sync MDS permissions
> > configuration with the
> > possible UID/GID ranges on the client. It looks like a nightmare for sysadmin.
> > It is useful when cephfs is used as an external storage on the host, but if you
> > share cephfs with a few containers with different user namespaces idmapping...
>
> Hmm, while this will break the MDS permission check in cephfs then in
> lookup case. If we really couldn't support it we should make it to
> escape the check anyway or some OPs may fail and won't work as expected.

Hi Xiubo!

Disabling UID/GID checks on the MDS side looks reasonable. IMHO the
most important checks are:
- open
- mknod/mkdir/symlink/rename
and for these checks we already have an idmapping.

Also, I want to add that it's a little bit unusual when permission
checks are done against the caller UID/GID.
Usually, if we have opened a file descriptor and, for instance, passed
this file descriptor through a unix socket then
file descriptor holder will be able to use it in accordance with the
flags (O_RDONLY, O_RDWR, ...).
We also have ->f_cred on the struct file that contains credentials of
the file opener and permission checks are usually done
based on this. But in cephfs we are always using syscall caller's
credentials. It makes cephfs file descriptor "not transferable"
in terms of permission checks.

Kind regards,
Alex

>
> @Greg
>
> For the lookup requests the idmapping couldn't get the mapped UID/GID
> just like all the other requests, which is needed by the MDS permission
> check. Is that okay to make it disable the check for this case ? I am
> afraid this will break the MDS permssions logic.
>
> Any idea ?
>
> Thanks
>
> - Xiubo
>
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Alex
> >
>

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ