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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2306190000530.14084@angie.orcam.me.uk>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 00:42:08 +0100 (BST)
From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@...am.me.uk>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>
cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@...ux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
sparclinux@...r.kernel.org, linux-parport@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] parport_pc: don't allow driver for SPARC32
On Fri, 7 Apr 2023, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > There are PC-style PCI (and PCIe) parallel ports in the form of option
> > cards being sold; I have one in my RISC-V machine (and I had to go through
> > the hassle of figuring out why the heck I am not able to select the driver
> > in configuration; a situation analogous to what Randy's change wants to
> > arrange). You can plug one into any machine that has PCI slots and my
> > understanding from Linux Kconfig files is there are such 32-bit SPARC
> > machines in existence or the dependency on PCI wouldn't offer the driver.
> > Otherwise just don't enable CONFIG_PCI for 32-bit SPARC.
> >
>
> If there are 32-bit Sparc machines with PCI slots, we must not have any
> users with parallel ports or we should have heard about it IMO.
I wouldn't be surprised, parallel ports are not that common nowadays, let
alone used. Myself I haven't used a parallel printer for ages now, though
I still own a couple of odd other parallel devices, such as a ROM emulator
or the firmware download port of an old MIPS development board (actually a
regular Super I/O parallel port of said device hijacked by an onboard FPGA
for this second purpose if enabled with an onboard rocker switch). That's
not the usual stuff people tend to use I suppose.
> >> An alternative fix, and better I think, would be to audit all archs
> >> and let the relevant ones select ARCH_MIGHT_HAVE_PC_PARPORT, so we
> >> avoided the ugly "|| (PCI && !S390 && !SPARC32)" case for PARPORT_PC.
I should have noted this before: ARCH_MIGHT_HAVE_PC_PARPORT is for true
ISA or Super I/O parallel ports only. We handle true PCI implementations
in a generic platform-agnostic way, as long as the platform implements PCI
I/O commands in the host bridge. The latter requirement only excludes a
bunch of platforms, most notably S390 and recent 64-bit POWER systems.
With Niklas's HAS_IOPORT patches the S390 special case will soon be gone.
> > It's only S390 that is special in that it has a limited set of specially
> > crafted PCI options it can ever support (or so I am told; something about
> > the firmware or suchlike).
>
> >From my reading, if a Sparc32 machine has a PCI port, it might be able to
> have a parallel port. However, even with Maciej's suggested code change
> instead of my patch, the ebus code is not being compiled for Sparc32 -- only
> for Sparc64, so more changes are needed beyond Maciej's suggestion.
>
> But the documentation that I found refers to Ebus on Sparc4 machines.
Well, even though I came across a bunch of SPARC machines in the past I'm
not familiar enough with the platform to have an idea what SPARC4 refers
to. You can enable CONFIG_PCI for a SPARC32 kernel however, which I infer
from there are 32-bit SPARC machines in existence with PCI connectivity.
That I find enough for a potential PC-style parallel port configuration
with such a system, for as many ports as the availability of slots allows.
> > Any other platform that has PCI slots will handle PC-style PCI parallel
> > port option cards just fine, as long as it supports PCI I/O read/write
> > commands (some systems such as POWER9 machines don't; Niklas Schnelle has
> > been recently working on a generic way to exclude drivers for devices that
> > require PCI port I/O from being offered with systems that have no support
> > for PCI port I/O).
> >
> > Let me know if you find anything here unclear or have any other questions
> > or comments.
>
> /me wishes that we had a Sparc maintainer.
What happened to DaveM?
In any case after a couple of iterations I have made a succesful build of
a 32-bit SPARC toolchain now, which I was able to verify a fix with I have
outlined earlier in this thread. Posted as archived at:
<https://lore.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.21.2306182347101.14084@angie.orcam.me.uk/>.
Maciej
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