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Message-ID: <20230620075830.GU4253@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:58:30 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
Cc:     "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>,
        "kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
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        "Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@...el.com>,
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        "Brown, Len" <len.brown@...el.com>,
        "sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com" 
        <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
        "Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 18/20] x86: Handle TDX erratum to reset TDX private
 memory during kexec() and reboot

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 06:06:30PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/19/23 17:56, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > Any comments to below?
> 
> Nothing that I haven't already said in this thread:
> 
> > Just use a normal old atomic_t or set_bit()/test_bit().  They have
> > built-in memory barriers are are less likely to get botched.
> 
> I kinda made a point of literally suggesting "atomic_t or
> set_bit()/test_bit()".  I even told you why: "built-in memory barriers".
> 
> Guess what READ/WRITE_ONCE() *don't* have.  Memory barriers.

x86 has built-in memory barriers for being TSO :-) Specifically all
barriers provided by spinlock (acquire/release) are no-ops on x86.

(strictly speaking locks imply stronger order than they have to because
TSO atomic ops imply stronger ordering than required)

There is one (and only the one) re-ordering possible on TSO and that is
the store-buffer, later loads can fail to observe prior stores.

If that is a concern, you need explicit barriers.

This is #MC, much care and explicit open-coded crap is expected. Also,
this is #MC, much broken is also expected :-( As in, the current #MC
handler is a know pile of shit.

Basically the whole of #MC should be noinstr -- it isn't and that's a
significant problem.

Also we still very much suffer the NMI <- #MC problem and the #MC latch
is known broken garbage.

Whatever you do, do it very carefully, double check and be more careful.

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