linux-kernel - Re: Memory providers multiplexing (Was: [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE

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Message-ID: <20230620083918.2e3dbade@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:39:18 -0700
From:   Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To:     Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@...hat.com>
Cc:     brouer@...hat.com, Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>,
        Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>, davem@...emloft.net,
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        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>,
        Yisen Zhuang <yisen.zhuang@...wei.com>,
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        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Sunil Goutham <sgoutham@...vell.com>,
        Geetha sowjanya <gakula@...vell.com>,
        Subbaraya Sundeep <sbhatta@...vell.com>,
        hariprasad <hkelam@...vell.com>,
        Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...dia.com>,
        Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>,
        Felix Fietkau <nbd@....name>,
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        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
        <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>,
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        Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>
Subject: Re: Memory providers multiplexing (Was: [PATCH net-next v4 4/5]
 page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag)

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:12:41 +0200 Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > The workaround solution I had in mind would be to create a narrower API
> > for just data pages. Since we'd need to sprinkle ifs anyway, pull them
> > up close to the call site. Allowing to switch page pool for a
> > completely different implementation, like the one Jonathan coded up for
> > iouring. Basically
> > 
> > $name_alloc_page(queue)
> > {
> > 	if (queue->pp)
> > 		return page_pool_dev_alloc_pages(queue->pp);
> > 	else if (queue->iouring..)
> > 		...
> > }  
> 
> Yes, this is more the direction I'm thinking.
> In many cases, you don't need this if-statement helper in the driver, as
> driver RX side code will know the API used upfront.

Meaning that the driver "knows" if it's in the XDP, AF_XDP, iouring 
or "normal" Rx path?  I hope we can avoid extra code in the driver
completely, for data pages.

> The TX completion side will need this kind of multiplexing return
> helper, to return the pages to the correct memory allocator type (e.g.
> page_pool being one).  See concept in [1] __xdp_return().
> 
> Performance wise, function pointers are slow due to RETPOLINE, but
> switch-case statements (below certain size) becomes a jump table, which
> is fast.  See[1].
> 
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.4-rc7/source/net/core/xdp.c#L377

SG!

> Regarding room in "struct page", notice that page->pp_magic will have
> plenty room for e.g. storing xdp_mem_type or even xdp_mem_info (which
> also contains an ID).

I was worried about fitting the DMA address, if the pages code from user
space.