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Date:   Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:40:20 +0800
From:   "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>
To:     Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com>
Cc:     liuq <liuq131@...natelecom.cn>, <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        <linux-mm@...ck.org>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        mawupeng 00564683 <mawupeng1@...wei.com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/min_free_kbytes: modify min_free_kbytes
 calculation rules

Hi, Kefeng,

Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com> writes:

> Hi Liuq,
>
> On 2023/6/21 17:20, liuq wrote:
>> The current calculation of min_free_kbytes only uses ZONE_DMA and
>> ZONE_NORMAL pages,but the ZONE_MOVABLE zone->_watermark[WMARK_MIN]
>> will also divide part of min_free_kbytes.This will cause the min
>> watermark of ZONE_NORMAL to be too small in the presence of ZONE_MOVEABLE.
>> __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't need movable
>> zone pages, so just like ZONE_HIGHMEM, cap pages_min to a small
>> value in __setup_per_zone_wmarks.
>> On my testing machine with 16GB of memory (transparent hugepage is
>> turned off by default, and movablecore=12G is configured)
>> The following is a comparative test data of watermark_min
>> 		no patch	add patch
>> ZONE_DMA	1		8
>> ZONE_DMA32	151		709
>> ZONE_NORMAL	233		1113
>> ZONE_MOVABLE	1434		128
>> min_free_kbytes	7288		7326
>> 
>
> We see this issue and do the same change[1], and we add a per zone
> watermark configuration too, but both of them is not accepted,
> let's add Mel and wupeng to see more comments.
>
> [1]https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220905032858.1462927-1-mawupeng1@huawei.com/

Thanks for your information!  That's very useful.

As Mel said, ZONE_MOVABLE or ZONE_HIGHMEM pages allocation will need low
memory to be allocated too.  But I don't understand why higher min
watermark of ZONE_MOVABLE will help this.  It's too small compared with
the size of ZONE_MOVABLE in most cases.  For example, on the system of
the patch description, the original "large" min watermark of
ZONE_MOVABLE is only (1434 * 4) = 5736 KB, which is too small compared
with 12 GB total ZONE_MOVABLE size.  That is, before reaching min or low
watermark, we will allocate almost same number of ZONE_MOVABLE pages:
~12GB vs. ~(12GB - 5MB).

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

>> Signed-off-by: liuq <liuq131@...natelecom.cn>
>> ---
>>   mm/page_alloc.c | 12 ++++++------
>>   1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> index 47421bedc12b..590ed8725e09 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> @@ -6362,9 +6362,9 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>>   	struct zone *zone;
>>   	unsigned long flags;
>>   -	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM pages */
>> +	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM and !ZONE_MOVABLE pages */
>>   	for_each_zone(zone) {
>> -		if (!is_highmem(zone))
>> +		if (!is_highmem(zone) && zone_idx(zone) != ZONE_MOVABLE)
>>   			lowmem_pages += zone_managed_pages(zone);
>>   	}
>>   @@ -6374,15 +6374,15 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>>   		spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lock, flags);
>>   		tmp = (u64)pages_min * zone_managed_pages(zone);
>>   		do_div(tmp, lowmem_pages);
>> -		if (is_highmem(zone)) {
>> +		if (is_highmem(zone) || zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_MOVABLE) {
>>   			/*
>>   			 * __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't
>> -			 * need highmem pages, so cap pages_min to a small
>> -			 * value here.
>> +			 * need highmem and movable zones pages, so cap pages_min
>> +			 * to a small  value here.
>>   			 *
>>   			 * The WMARK_HIGH-WMARK_LOW and (WMARK_LOW-WMARK_MIN)
>>   			 * deltas control async page reclaim, and so should
>> -			 * not be capped for highmem.
>> +			 * not be capped for highmem and movable zones.
>>   			 */
>>   			unsigned long min_pages;
>>