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Date:   Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:34 -0700
From:   Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>
To:     Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com>
Cc:     Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ben Gardon <bgardon@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86/mmu: Remove KVM MMU write lock when accessing indirect_shadow_pages

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 4:58 PM Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 5:28 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 06, 2023, Mingwei Zhang wrote:
> > > > > Hmm. I agree with both points above, but below, the change seems too
> > > > > heavyweight. smp_wb() is a mfence(), i.e., serializing all
> > > > > loads/stores before the instruction. Doing that for every shadow page
> > > > > creation and destruction seems a lot.
> > > >
> > > > No, the smp_*b() variants are just compiler barriers on x86.
> > >
> > > hmm, it is a "lock addl" now for smp_mb(). Check this: 450cbdd0125c
> > > ("locking/x86: Use LOCK ADD for smp_mb() instead of MFENCE")
> > >
> > > So this means smp_mb() is not a free lunch and we need to be a little
> > > bit careful.
> >
> > Oh, those sneaky macros.  x86 #defines __smp_mb(), not the outer helper.  I'll
> > take a closer look before posting to see if there's a way to avoid the runtime
> > barrier.
>
> Checked again, I think using smp_wmb() and smp_rmb() should be fine as
> those are just compiler barriers. We don't need a full barrier here.

That seems adequate.

> Thanks.
> -Mingwei

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