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Message-ID: <2023070626-boxcar-bubbly-471d@gregkh>
Date:   Thu, 6 Jul 2023 09:07:12 +0100
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     "Michael Kelley (LINUX)" <mikelley@...rosoft.com>
Cc:     Petr Tesarik <petrtesarik@...weicloud.com>,
        Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@...ha.franken.de>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
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        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
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        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
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        Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
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        "open list:XEN SWIOTLB SUBSYSTEM" <iommu@...ts.linux.dev>,
        Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@...weicloud.com>,
        Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com>,
        "petr@...arici.cz" <petr@...arici.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/7] swiotlb: if swiotlb is full, fall back to a
 transient memory pool

On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 03:50:55AM +0000, Michael Kelley (LINUX) wrote:
> From: Petr Tesarik <petrtesarik@...weicloud.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 2:54 AM
> > 
> > Try to allocate a transient memory pool if no suitable slots can be found,
> > except when allocating from a restricted pool. The transient pool is just
> > enough big for this one bounce buffer. It is inserted into a per-device
> > list of transient memory pools, and it is freed again when the bounce
> > buffer is unmapped.
> > 
> > Transient memory pools are kept in an RCU list. A memory barrier is
> > required after adding a new entry, because any address within a transient
> > buffer must be immediately recognized as belonging to the SWIOTLB, even if
> > it is passed to another CPU.
> > 
> > Deletion does not require any synchronization beyond RCU ordering
> > guarantees. After a buffer is unmapped, its physical addresses may no
> > longer be passed to the DMA API, so the memory range of the corresponding
> > stale entry in the RCU list never matches. If the memory range gets
> > allocated again, then it happens only after a RCU quiescent state.
> > 
> > Since bounce buffers can now be allocated from different pools, add a
> > parameter to swiotlb_alloc_pool() to let the caller know which memory pool
> > is used. Add swiotlb_find_pool() to find the memory pool corresponding to
> > an address. This function is now also used by is_swiotlb_buffer(), because
> > a simple boundary check is no longer sufficient.
> > 
> > The logic in swiotlb_alloc_tlb() is taken from __dma_direct_alloc_pages(),
> > simplified and enhanced to use coherent memory pools if needed.
> > 
> > Note that this is not the most efficient way to provide a bounce buffer,
> > but when a DMA buffer can't be mapped, something may (and will) actually
> > break. At that point it is better to make an allocation, even if it may be
> > an expensive operation.
> 
> I continue to think about swiotlb memory management from the standpoint
> of CoCo VMs that may be quite large with high network and storage loads.
> These VMs are often running mission-critical workloads that can't tolerate
> a bounce buffer allocation failure.  To prevent such failures, the swiotlb
> memory size must be overly large, which wastes memory.

If "mission critical workloads" are in a vm that allowes overcommit and
no control over other vms in that same system, then you have worse
problems, sorry.

Just don't do that.

thanks,

greg k-h

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