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Date:   Thu, 6 Jul 2023 01:44:49 +0000
From:   Wei Fang <wei.fang@....com>
To:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
CC:     Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "edumazet@...gle.com" <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        "pabeni@...hat.com" <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        "ast@...nel.org" <ast@...nel.org>,
        "daniel@...earbox.net" <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        "hawk@...nel.org" <hawk@...nel.org>,
        "john.fastabend@...il.com" <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Shenwei Wang <shenwei.wang@....com>,
        Clark Wang <xiaoning.wang@....com>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@....com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "bpf@...r.kernel.org" <bpf@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net 3/3] net: fec: increase the size of tx ring and update
 thresholds of tx ring

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
> Sent: 2023年7月6日 2:11
> To: Wei Fang <wei.fang@....com>
> Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>; davem@...emloft.net;
> edumazet@...gle.com; pabeni@...hat.com; ast@...nel.org;
> daniel@...earbox.net; hawk@...nel.org; john.fastabend@...il.com;
> Shenwei Wang <shenwei.wang@....com>; Clark Wang
> <xiaoning.wang@....com>; netdev@...r.kernel.org; dl-linux-imx
> <linux-imx@....com>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; bpf@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH net 3/3] net: fec: increase the size of tx ring and update
> thresholds of tx ring
> 
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 06:20:26 +0000 Wei Fang wrote:
> > > > In addtion, this patch also updates the tx_stop_threshold and the
> > > > tx_wake_threshold of the tx ring. In previous logic, the value of
> > > > tx_stop_threshold is 217, however, the value of tx_wake_threshold
> > > > is 147, it does not make sense that tx_wake_threshold is less than
> > > > tx_stop_threshold.
> > >
> > > What do these actually mean? I could imagine that as the ring fills
> > > you don't want to stop until it is 217/512 full. There is then some
> > > hysteresis, such that it has to drop below 147/512 before more can be
> added?
> > >
> > You must have misunderstood, let me explain more clearly, the queue
> > will be stopped when the available BDs are less than tx_stop_threshold
> > (217 BDs). And the queue will be waked when the available BDs are
> > greater than tx_wake_threshold
> > (147 BDs). So in most cases, the available BDs are greater than
> > tx_wake_threshold when the queue is stopped, the only effect is to delay
> packet sending.
> > In my opinion, tx_wake_threshold should be greater than
> > tx_stop_threshold, we should stop queue when the available BDs are not
> enough for a skb to be attached.
> > And wake the queue when the available BDs are sufficient for a skb.
> 
> But you shouldn't restart the queue for a single packet either.
> Restarting for a single packet wastes CPU cycles as there will be much more
> stop / start operations. Two large packets seem like the absolute minimum
> reasonable wake threshold.
> 
> Setting tx_stop_threshold to MAX_SKB_FRAGS doesn't seem right either, as
> you won't be able to accept a full TSO frame.
> 
Maybe I should keep the tx_stop_threshold unchanged, so that the queue is
to be stopped if the available BDs is not enough for a full TSO frame to be attached.
And then just change tx_wake_threshold to tx_stop_threshold + 1, which I think it's
more reasonable.

> Please split the change, the netdev_err_once() should be one patch and then
> the change to wake thresh a separate one.
Okay, thanks!

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