linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK

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Message-ID: <894a3b64-a369-7bc6-c8a8-0910843cc587@linux.alibaba.com>
Date:   Thu, 13 Jul 2023 22:34:45 +0800
From:   Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@...ux.alibaba.com>
To:     Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
Cc:     paulmck@...nel.org, Sandeep Dhavale <dhavale@...gle.com>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@...cinc.com>,
        Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
        Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@...il.com>,
        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
        <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>,
        linux-erofs@...ts.ozlabs.org, xiang@...nel.org,
        Will Shiu <Will.Shiu@...iatek.com>, kernel-team@...roid.com,
        rcu@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when
 !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC



On 2023/7/13 22:07, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 12:59 AM Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>> On 2023/7/13 12:52, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 12:41:09PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>
>>>> There are lots of performance issues here and even a plumber
>>>> topic last year to show that, see:
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230519001709.2563-1-tj@kernel.org
>>>> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAHk-=wgE9kORADrDJ4nEsHHLirqPCZ1tGaEPAZejHdZ03qCOGg@mail.gmail.com
>>>> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAB=BE-SBtO6vcoyLNA9F-9VaN5R0t3o_Zn+FW8GbO6wyUqFneQ@mail.gmail.com
>>>> [4] https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1338/
>>>> and more.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if it's necessary to look info all of that,
>>>> andSandeep knows more than I am (the scheduling issue
>>>> becomes vital on some aarch64 platform.)
>>>
>>> Hmmm...  Please let me try again.
>>>
>>> Assuming that this approach turns out to make sense, the resulting
>>> patch will need to clearly state the performance benefits directly in
>>> the commit log.
>>>
>>> And of course, for the approach to make sense, it must avoid breaking
>>> the existing lockdep-RCU debugging code.
>>>
>>> Is that more clear?
>>
>> Personally I'm not working on Android platform any more so I don't
>> have a way to reproduce, hopefully Sandeep could give actually
>> number _again_ if dm-verity is enabled and trigger another
>> workqueue here and make a comparsion why the scheduling latency of
>> the extra work becomes unacceptable.
>>
> 
> Question from my side, are we talking about only performance issues or
> also a crash? It appears z_erofs_decompress_pcluster() takes
> mutex_lock(&pcl->lock);
> 
> So if it is either in an RCU read-side critical section or in an
> atomic section, like the softirq path, then it may
> schedule-while-atomic or trigger RCU warnings.
> 
> z_erofs_decompressqueue_endio
> -> z_erofs_decompress_kickoff
>   ->z_erofs_decompressqueue_work
>    ->z_erofs_decompress_queue
>     -> z_erofs_decompress_pcluster
>      -> mutex_lock
> 

Why does the softirq path not trigger a workqueue instead? why here
it triggers "schedule-while-atomic" in the softirq context?

> Per Sandeep in [1], this stack happens under RCU read-lock in:
> 
> #define __blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops(q, check_sleep, dispatch_ops) \
> [...]
>                  rcu_read_lock();
>                  (dispatch_ops);
>                  rcu_read_unlock();
> [...]
> 
> Coming from:
> blk_mq_flush_plug_list ->
>                             blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops(q,
>                                  __blk_mq_flush_plug_list(q, plug));
> 
> and __blk_mq_flush_plug_list does this:
>            q->mq_ops->queue_rqs(&plug->mq_list);
> 
> This somehow ends up calling the bio_endio and the
> z_erofs_decompressqueue_endio which grabs the mutex.
> 
> So... I have a question, it looks like one of the paths in
> __blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops() uses SRCU.  Where are as the alternate
> path uses RCU. Why does this alternate want to block even if it is not
> supposed to? Is the real issue here that the BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING should
> be set? It sounds like you want to block in the "else" path even
> though BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING is not set:

BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING is not a flag that a filesystem can do anything with.
That is block layer and mq device driver stuffs. filesystems cannot set
this value.

As I said, as far as I understand, previously,
.end_io() can only be called without RCU context, so it will be fine,
but I don't know when .end_io() can be called under some RCU context
now.


Thanks,
Gao Xiang