linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK

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Message-ID: <058e7ee9-0380-eb1b-d9a8-b184cba6ed53@linux.alibaba.com>
Date:   Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:16:52 +0800
From:   Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@...ux.alibaba.com>
To:     paulmck@...nel.org, Sandeep Dhavale <dhavale@...gle.com>
Cc:     Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@...cinc.com>,
        Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
        Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@...il.com>,
        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
        <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>,
        linux-erofs@...ts.ozlabs.org, xiang@...nel.org,
        Will Shiu <Will.Shiu@...iatek.com>, kernel-team@...roid.com,
        rcu@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when
 !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC



On 2023/7/14 10:16, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 09:33:35AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:33:24AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:

...

>>>
>>> >From what Sandeep described, the code path is in an RCU reader. My
>>> question is more, why doesn't it use SRCU instead since it clearly
>>> does so if BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING. What are the tradeoffs? IMHO, a deeper
>>> dive needs to be made into that before concluding that the fix is to
>>> use rcu_read_lock_any_held().
>>
>> How can this be solved?
>>
>> 1.	Always use a workqueue.  Simple, but is said to have performance
>> 	issues.
>>
>> 2.	Pass a flag in that indicates whether or not the caller is in an
>> 	RCU read-side critical section.  Conceptually simple, but might
>> 	or might not be reasonable to actually implement in the code as
>> 	it exists now.	(You tell me!)
>>
>> 3.	Create a function in z_erofs that gives you a decent
>> 	approximation, maybe something like the following.
>>
>> 4.	Other ideas here.
> 
> 5.	#3 plus make the corresponding Kconfig option select
> 	PREEMPT_COUNT, assuming that any users needing compression in
> 	non-preemptible kernels are OK with PREEMPT_COUNT being set.
> 	(Some users of non-preemptible kernels object strenuously
> 	to the added overhead from CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y.)

I'm not sure if it's a good idea, we need to work on
CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=n (why not?), we could just always trigger a
workqueue for this.

Anyway, before we proceed, I also think it'd be better to get some
performance numbers first for this (e.g. with dm-verity) and record
the numbers in the commit message to justify this.  Otherwise, I guess
the same question will be raised again and again.

Thanks,
Gao Xiang