linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/10] Add dynamic boost control support

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Sat, 15 Jul 2023 08:23:30 +0200
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:     Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>
Cc:     Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>,
        "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        John Allen <john.allen@....com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Add dynamic boost control support

On Wed 2023-04-26 09:43:43, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> 
> On 4/26/23 08:47, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > Dynamic boost control is a feature of some SoCs that allows
> > > an authenticated entity to send commands to the security processor
> > > to control certain SOC characteristics with the intention to improve
> > > performance.
> > > 
> > > This is implemented via a mechanism that a userspace application would
> > > authenticate using a nonce and key exchange over an IOCTL interface.
> > > 
> > > After authentication is complete an application can exchange signed
> > > messages with the security processor and both ends can validate the
> > > data transmitted.
> > Why is this acceptable? This precludes cross-platform interfaces,
> > right? Why would application want to validate data from PSP? That
> > precludes virtualization, right?
> > 
> > Just put the key in kernel. Users have right to control their own
> > hardware.
> > 							Pavel
> 
> This matches exactly how the interface works in Windows as well.

Windows has different design constrants.

> The reason for validating the data from the PSP is because the data
> crosses multiple trust boundaries and this ensures that the application
> can trust it to make informed decisions.

If the application can not trust kernel, you are already doomed on
Linux.

									Pavel

-- 
People of Russia, stop Putin before his war on Ukraine escalates.

Download attachment "signature.asc" of type "application/pgp-signature" (196 bytes)