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Date:   Tue, 18 Jul 2023 08:04:24 +0200
From:   Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@...aro.org>
To:     蔡承達 <billyking19920205@...il.com>
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        Billy Tsai <billy_tsai@...eedtech.com>
Subject: Re: [v6 2/4] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add ASPEED TACH Control
 documentation

On 18/07/2023 06:01, 蔡承達 wrote:
>>
>> On 17/07/2023 11:01, 蔡承達 wrote:
>>> Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> 於 2023年7月17日 週一 上午1:00寫道：
>>>>
>>>> On 7/16/23 09:08, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [ ... ]
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch serial doesn't use to binding the fan control h/w. It is
>>>>>> used to binding the two independent h/w blocks.
>>>>>> One is used to provide pwm output and another is used to monitor the
>>>>>> speed of the input.
>>>>>> My patch is used to point out that the pwm and the tach is the
>>>>>> different function and don't need to
>>>>>> bind together. You can not only combine them as the fan usage but also
>>>>>> treat them as the individual module for
>>>>>> use. For example: the pwm can use to be the beeper (pwm-beeper.c), the
>>>>>> tach can be used to monitor the heart beat signal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this exactly the same as in every other SoC? PWMs can be used in
>>>>> different ways?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... and in every fan controller. Not that it really makes sense because
>>>> normally the pwm controller part of such chips is tied to the fan input,
>>>> to enable automatic fan control, but it is technically possible.
>>>> In many cases this is also the case in SoCs, for example, in ast2500.
>>>> Apparently this was redesigned in ast2600 where they two blocks are
>>>> only lightly coupled (there are two pwm status bits in the fan status
>>>> register, but I have no idea what those mean). If the blocks are tightly
>>>> coupled, separate drivers don't really make sense.
>>>>
>>>> There are multiple ways to separate the pwm controller part from the
>>>> fan inputs if that is really necessary. One would be to provide a
>>>> sequence of address mappings, the other would be to pass the memory
>>>> region from an mfd driver. It is not necessary to have N instances
>>>> of the fan controller, even if the address space is not continuous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Guenter,
>>>
>>> May I ask about the meaning of the sequence of address mappings? It appears
>>> to consist of multiple tuples within the 'reg' property, indicating
>>> the usage of PWM/Tach
>>> registers within a single instance. After that I can use the dts like following:
>>>
>>> pwm: pwm@...10000 {
>>> ...
>>> reg = <0x1e610000 0x8
>>> 0x1e610010 0x8
>>> 0x1e610020 0x8
>>> 0x1e610030 0x8
>>> 0x1e610040 0x8
>>> 0x1e610050 0x8
>>> 0x1e610060 0x8
>>> 0x1e610070 0x8
>>> 0x1e610080 0x8
>>> 0x1e610090 0x8
>>> 0x1e6100A0 0x8
>>> 0x1e6100B0 0x8
>>> 0x1e6100C0 0x8
>>> 0x1e6100D0 0x8
>>> 0x1e6100E0 0x8
>>> 0x1e6100F0 0x8>;
>>
>>
>> Uh, no... I mean, why? We keep pointing out that this should not be done
>> differently than any other SoC. Open any other SoC PWM controller and
>> tell me why this is different? Why this cannot be one address space?
> 
> Hi Krzysztof,
> 
> This is because the register layout for PWM and Tach is not continuous.
> Each PWM/Tach instance has its own set of controller registers, and they
> are independent of each other.

Register layout is not continuous in many other devices, so again - why
this must be different?

> 
> For example:
> PWM0 uses registers 0x0 and 0x4, while Tach0 uses registers 0x8 and 0xc.
> PWM1 uses registers 0x10 and 0x14, while Tach1 uses registers 0x18 and 0x1c.
> ...
> 
> To separate the PWM controller part from the fan inputs, Guenter has
> provided two methods.
> The first method involves passing the memory region from an MFD
> driver, which was the

I have no clue how can you pass memory region
(Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/) from MFD and why
does it make sense here.

> initial method I intended to use. However, it seems that this method
> does not make sense to you.
> 
> Therefore, I would like to explore the second method suggested by
> Guenter, which involves providing
> a sequence of address mappings.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

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