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Message-ID: <CAKfTPtC+q5t+Kumyhq=vLhmx75VSimZPZ2U9qc6UQXwZVAZQ4w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:04:18 +0200
From:   Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To:     Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@...cle.com>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <vschneid@...hat.com>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...el.com>,
        Nitin Tekchandani <nitin.tekchandani@...el.com>,
        Yu Chen <yu.c.chen@...el.com>,
        Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: delay update_tg_load_avg() for
 cfs_rq's removed load

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 16:42, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 03:10:30PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 at 15:29, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 11:47:06AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 at 10:01, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 01:18:26PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > > > > > Alternatively, I can remove some callsites of update_tg_load_avg() like
> > > > > > you suggested below and only call update_tg_load_avg() when cfs_rq is
> > > > > > decayed(really just decayed, not when it detected it has removed load
> > > > > > pending or load propagated from its children). This way it would give us
> > > > > > similar result as above(roughly once per ms).
> > > > >
> > > > > Something like this: (I think this is better since it removed those
> > > > > unnecessary calls to update_tg_load_avg(), although it is inline but
> > > > > still)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From bc749aaefa6bed36aa946921a4006b3dddb69b77 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > > > From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com>
> > > > > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:54:48 +0800
> > > > > Subject: [PATCH] sched/fair: only update_tg_load_avg() when cfs_rq decayed
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 22 +++++++---------------
> > > > >  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > index a80a73909dc2..7d5b7352b8b5 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > @@ -3913,16 +3913,16 @@ static inline void add_tg_cfs_propagate(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, long runnable_sum
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > >  /* Update task and its cfs_rq load average */
> > > > > -static inline int propagate_entity_load_avg(struct sched_entity *se)
> > > > > +static inline void propagate_entity_load_avg(struct sched_entity *se)
> > > > >  {
> > > > >         struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, *gcfs_rq;
> > > > >
> > > > >         if (entity_is_task(se))
> > > > > -               return 0;
> > > > > +               return;
> > > > >
> > > > >         gcfs_rq = group_cfs_rq(se);
> > > > >         if (!gcfs_rq->propagate)
> > > > > -               return 0;
> > > > > +               return;
> > > > >
> > > > >         gcfs_rq->propagate = 0;
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -3936,8 +3936,6 @@ static inline int propagate_entity_load_avg(struct sched_entity *se)
> > > > >
> > > > >         trace_pelt_cfs_tp(cfs_rq);
> > > > >         trace_pelt_se_tp(se);
> > > > > -
> > > > > -       return 1;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > >  /*
> > > > > @@ -3974,9 +3972,8 @@ static inline bool skip_blocked_update(struct sched_entity *se)
> > > > >
> > > > >  static inline void update_tg_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq) {}
> > > > >
> > > > > -static inline int propagate_entity_load_avg(struct sched_entity *se)
> > > > > +static inline void propagate_entity_load_avg(struct sched_entity *se)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > -       return 0;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > >  static inline void add_tg_cfs_propagate(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, long runnable_sum) {}
> > > > > @@ -4086,7 +4083,7 @@ update_cfs_rq_load_avg(u64 now, struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
> > > > >  {
> > > > >         unsigned long removed_load = 0, removed_util = 0, removed_runnable = 0;
> > > > >         struct sched_avg *sa = &cfs_rq->avg;
> > > > > -       int decayed = 0;
> > > > > +       int decayed;
> > > > >
> > > > >         if (cfs_rq->removed.nr) {
> > > > >                 unsigned long r;
> > > > > @@ -4134,11 +4131,9 @@ update_cfs_rq_load_avg(u64 now, struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
> > > > >                  */
> > > > >                 add_tg_cfs_propagate(cfs_rq,
> > > > >                         -(long)(removed_runnable * divider) >> SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT);
> > > > > -
> > > > > -               decayed = 1;
> > > > >         }
> > > > >
> > > > > -       decayed |= __update_load_avg_cfs_rq(now, cfs_rq);
> > > > > +       decayed = __update_load_avg_cfs_rq(now, cfs_rq);
> > > > >         u64_u32_store_copy(sa->last_update_time,
> > > > >                            cfs_rq->last_update_time_copy,
> > > > >                            sa->last_update_time);
> > > > > @@ -4252,7 +4247,7 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
> > > > >                 __update_load_avg_se(now, cfs_rq, se);
> > > > >
> > > > >         decayed  = update_cfs_rq_load_avg(now, cfs_rq);
> > > > > -       decayed |= propagate_entity_load_avg(se);
> > > > > +       propagate_entity_load_avg(se);
> > > >
> > > > but then you  also skip the call to cfs_rq_util_change()
> > >
> > > Ah right, I missed that, thanks for catching this.
> > >
> > > Updated:
> > >
> > > From 09a649f8111cfca656b7b735da975ef607b00956 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com>
> > > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:54:48 +0800
> > > Subject: [PATCH] sched/fair: only update_tg_load_avg() when cfs_rq decayed
> > >
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 17 ++++++-----------
> > >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > index a80a73909dc2..8d4b9e0a19b6 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > @@ -4086,7 +4086,7 @@ update_cfs_rq_load_avg(u64 now, struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
> > >  {
> > >         unsigned long removed_load = 0, removed_util = 0, removed_runnable = 0;
> > >         struct sched_avg *sa = &cfs_rq->avg;
> > > -       int decayed = 0;
> > > +       int decayed;
> > >
> > >         if (cfs_rq->removed.nr) {
> > >                 unsigned long r;
> > > @@ -4134,11 +4134,9 @@ update_cfs_rq_load_avg(u64 now, struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
> > >                  */
> > >                 add_tg_cfs_propagate(cfs_rq,
> > >                         -(long)(removed_runnable * divider) >> SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT);
> > > -
> > > -               decayed = 1;
> >
> > We need this to propagate the change in other place like cpufreq
>
> Ah, I just made the same mistake again, sorry.
>
> So there are three cases for a cfs_rq: load decayed, load removed and
> load propagated. For all three cases, cfs_rq_util_change() needs to be
> called and only for decayed, update_tg_load_avg() needs to be called.
>
> I'll update the patch accordingly.
>
> > >         }
> > >
> > > -       decayed |= __update_load_avg_cfs_rq(now, cfs_rq);
> > > +       decayed = __update_load_avg_cfs_rq(now, cfs_rq);
> > >         u64_u32_store_copy(sa->last_update_time,
> > >                            cfs_rq->last_update_time_copy,
> > >                            sa->last_update_time);
> > > @@ -4242,7 +4240,7 @@ static void detach_entity_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
> > >  static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
> > >  {
> > >         u64 now = cfs_rq_clock_pelt(cfs_rq);
> > > -       int decayed;
> > > +       int decayed, propagated;
> > >
> > >         /*
> > >          * Track task load average for carrying it to new CPU after migrated, and
> > > @@ -4252,7 +4250,7 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
> > >                 __update_load_avg_se(now, cfs_rq, se);
> > >
> > >         decayed  = update_cfs_rq_load_avg(now, cfs_rq);
> > > -       decayed |= propagate_entity_load_avg(se);
> > > +       propagated = propagate_entity_load_avg(se);
> > >
> > >         if (!se->avg.last_update_time && (flags & DO_ATTACH)) {
> > >
> > > @@ -4264,19 +4262,16 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
> > >                  * IOW we're enqueueing a task on a new CPU.
> > >                  */
> > >                 attach_entity_load_avg(cfs_rq, se);
> > > -               update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq);
> > > -
> > >         } else if (flags & DO_DETACH) {
> > >                 /*
> > >                  * DO_DETACH means we're here from dequeue_entity()
> > >                  * and we are migrating task out of the CPU.
> > >                  */
> > >                 detach_entity_load_avg(cfs_rq, se);
> > > -               update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq);
> > > -       } else if (decayed) {
> > > +       } else if (decayed || propagated) {
> > >                 cfs_rq_util_change(cfs_rq, 0);
> > >
> > > -               if (flags & UPDATE_TG)
> > > +               if (decayed && (flags & UPDATE_TG))



> >
> > It would be simpler and more readable to clear UPDATE_TG or not set it
> > from the beginning
>
> Do you mean something like this?
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 8d4b9e0a19b6..084d63371355 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -4249,7 +4249,7 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
>         if (se->avg.last_update_time && !(flags & SKIP_AGE_LOAD))
>                 __update_load_avg_se(now, cfs_rq, se);
>
> -       decayed  = update_cfs_rq_load_avg(now, cfs_rq);
> +       decayed  = update_cfs_rq_load_avg(now, cfs_rq) && (flags & UPDATE_TG);
>         propagated = propagate_entity_load_avg(se);
>
>         if (!se->avg.last_update_time && (flags & DO_ATTACH)) {
> @@ -4271,7 +4271,7 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
>         } else if (decayed || propagated) {
>                 cfs_rq_util_change(cfs_rq, 0);
>
> -               if (decayed && (flags & UPDATE_TG))
> +               if (decayed)
>                         update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq);
>         }

something like below:

--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -4252,6 +4252,8 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq
*cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
                __update_load_avg_se(now, cfs_rq, se);

        decayed  = update_cfs_rq_load_avg(now, cfs_rq);
+       if (!decayed)
+               flags &= ~UPDATE_TG;
        decayed |= propagate_entity_load_avg(se);

        if (!se->avg.last_update_time && (flags & DO_ATTACH)) {


>  }
>
> > IIUC, you rely on the fact that a decay happens every 1024 us of the
> > cfs_rq_clock_pelt() which is scaled by frequency and cpu compute
> > capacity. So you can end up with a cfs_rq_clock_pelt() that is far
> > slower than real clock and the 1ms can easily be extended to dozens of
> > ms
>
> Thanks for the info. I'm not familiar with this clock scale part and will
> need to take a closer look.
>
> As you know, the intent is to make the unbound update to tg->load_avg
> become bound for those wakeup migration heavy workloads and the way this
> change does to achieve it is to remove the update to tg->load_avg on
> attach and detach path, just leave the update on load decay path. And if
> the current implementation makes load decay longer than 1024us, that
> shouldn't be a problem for this change. I don't see an immediate problem
> if update to tg->load_avg happens less often than once per ms but please
> let me know if I missed something, thanks.
>
> >
> > >                         update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq);
> > >         }
> > >  }
> > > --
> > > 2.41.0
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >         if (!se->avg.last_update_time && (flags & DO_ATTACH)) {
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -4264,15 +4259,12 @@ static inline void update_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *s
> > > > >                  * IOW we're enqueueing a task on a new CPU.
> > > > >                  */
> > > > >                 attach_entity_load_avg(cfs_rq, se);
> > > > > -               update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq);
> > > > > -
> > > > >         } else if (flags & DO_DETACH) {
> > > > >                 /*
> > > > >                  * DO_DETACH means we're here from dequeue_entity()
> > > > >                  * and we are migrating task out of the CPU.
> > > > >                  */
> > > > >                 detach_entity_load_avg(cfs_rq, se);
> > > > > -               update_tg_load_avg(cfs_rq);
> > > > >         } else if (decayed) {
> > > > >                 cfs_rq_util_change(cfs_rq, 0);
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > 2.41.0
> > > > >

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