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Date:   Mon, 31 Jul 2023 09:34:29 -0700
From:   Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Roy Hopkins <rhopkins@...e.de>
Cc:     Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>, paulmck@...nel.org,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@...x.de>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        stable@...r.kernel.org, patches@...ts.linux.dev,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, shuah@...nel.org, patches@...nelci.org,
        lkft-triage@...ts.linaro.org, jonathanh@...dia.com,
        f.fainelli@...il.com, sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com,
        srw@...dewatkins.net, rwarsow@....de, conor@...nel.org,
        rcu@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: scheduler problems in -next (was: Re: [PATCH 6.4 000/227]
 6.4.7-rc1 review)

On 7/31/23 09:14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 05:08:29PM +0100, Roy Hopkins wrote:
>> On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 16:52 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 07:48:19AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've taken your config above, and the rootfs.ext2 and run-sh from x86/.
>>>>> I've then modified run-sh to use:
>>>>>
>>>>>     qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -cpu host
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm seeing is that some boots get stuck at:
>>>>>
>>>>> [    0.608230] Running RCU-tasks wait API self tests
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the right 'problem' ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, exactly.
>>>
>>> Excellent! Let me prod that with something sharp, see what comes
>>> creeping out.
>>
>> In an effort to get up to speed with this area of the kernel, I've been playing
>> around with this too today and managed to reproduce the problem using the same
>> configuration. I'm completely new to this code but I think I may have found the
>> root of the problem.
>>
>> What I've found is that there is a race condition between starting the RCU tasks
>> grace-period thread in rcu_spawn_tasks_kthread_generic() and a subsequent call
>> to synchronize_rcu_tasks_generic(). This results in rtp->tasks_gp_mutex being
>> locked in the initial thread which subsequently blocks the newly started grace-
>> period thread.
>>
>> The problem is that although synchronize_rcu_tasks_generic() checks to see if
>> the grace-period kthread is running, it uses rtp->kthread_ptr to achieve this.
>> This is only set in the thread entry point and not when the thread is created,
>> meaning that it is set only after the creating thread yields or is preempted. If
>> this has not happened before the next call to synchronize_rcu_tasks_generic()
>> then a deadlock occurs.
>>
>> I've created a debug patch that introduces a new flag in rcu_tasks that is set
>> when the kthread is created and used this in synchronize_rcu_tasks_generic() in
>> place of READ_ONCE(rtp->kthread_ptr). This fixes the issue in my test
>> environment.
>>
>> I'm happy to have a go at submitting a patch for this if it helps.
> 
> Ha!, I was poking around the same thing. My hack below seems to (so far,
> <20 boots) help things.
> 

So, dumb question:
How comes this bisects to "sched/fair: Remove sched_feat(START_DEBIT)" ?

Thanks,
Guenter

> 
> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> index 56c470a489c8..b083b5a30025 100644
> --- a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> +++ b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> @@ -652,7 +658,11 @@ static void __init rcu_spawn_tasks_kthread_generic(struct rcu_tasks *rtp)
>   	t = kthread_run(rcu_tasks_kthread, rtp, "%s_kthread", rtp->kname);
>   	if (WARN_ONCE(IS_ERR(t), "%s: Could not start %s grace-period kthread, OOM is now expected behavior\n", __func__, rtp->name))
>   		return;
> -	smp_mb(); /* Ensure others see full kthread. */
> +	for (;;) {
> +		cond_resched();
> +		if (smp_load_acquire(&rtp->kthread_ptr))
> +			break;
> +	}
>   }
>   
>   #ifndef CONFIG_TINY_RCU

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