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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:47:54 +0100
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
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Atish Patra <atishp@...osinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/10] tools: lib: perf: Implement riscv mmap support
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 09:46:07AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 9:06 AM Alexandre Ghiti <alexghiti@...osinc.com> wrote:
> > I have just had the answer internally (thanks to @Brendan Sweeney):
> > csr modifications can alter how the memory is accessed (satp which
> > changes the address space, sum which allows/disallows userspace
> > access...), so we need the memory barrier to make sure the compiler
> > does not reorder the memory accesses.
>
> The conditions you mention shouldn't apply here though? Even if you
> add a memory barrier for the compiler what is stopping the hardware
> reordering loads and stores? If it absolutely has to be there then a
> comment something like "There is a bug is riscv where the csrr
> instruction can clobber memory breaking future reads and some how this
> constraint fixes it by ... ".
If the hardware doesn't know that writing to a csr can change how memory
accesses are done and reorders memory accesses around that csr write,
you've got a really broken piece of hardware on your hands ...
I know nothing about risc-v, and maybe the definition says that you need
to put a memory barrier before and/or after it in the instruction stream,
but on all hardware I'm familiar with, writing to a CSR is an implicitly
serialising operation.
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