lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Thu, 10 Aug 2023 15:55:09 -0700
From:   Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:     Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        stable@...r.kernel.org, patches@...ts.linux.dev,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, shuah@...nel.org, patches@...nelci.org,
        lkft-triage@...ts.linaro.org, pavel@...x.de, jonathanh@...dia.com,
        f.fainelli@...il.com, sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com,
        srw@...dewatkins.net, rwarsow@....de, conor@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5.15 00/92] 5.15.126-rc1 review

On 8/10/23 14:54, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 10:55:16AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 02:45:44PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 8/9/23 13:39, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 4:38 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/9/23 13:14, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 12:25:48PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 12:18 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/23 06:53, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 12:40:36PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the start of the stable review cycle for the 5.15.126 release.
>>>>>>>>>>> There are 92 patches in this series, all will be posted as a response
>>>>>>>>>>> to this one.  If anyone has any issues with these being applied, please
>>>>>>>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Responses should be made by Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:36:10 +0000.
>>>>>>>>>>> Anything received after that time might be too late.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The whole patch series can be found in one patch at:
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v5.x/stable-review/patch-5.15.126-rc1.gz
>>>>>>>>>>> or in the git tree and branch at:
>>>>>>>>>>>         git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable-rc.git linux-5.15.y
>>>>>>>>>>> and the diffstat can be found below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not necesscarily new with 5.15 stable but 3 of the 19 rcutorture scenarios
>>>>>>>>>> hang with this -rc: TREE04, TREE07, TASKS03.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5.15 has a known stop machine issue where it hangs after 1.5 hours with cpu
>>>>>>>>>> hotplug rcutorture testing. Me and tglx are continuing to debug this. The
>>>>>>>>>> issue does not show up on anything but 5.15 stable kernels and neither on
>>>>>>>>>> mainline.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you by any have a crash pattern that we could possibly use to find the crash
>>>>>>>>> in ChromeOS crash logs ? No idea if that would help, but it could provide some
>>>>>>>>> additional data points.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The pattern shows as a hard hang, the system is unresponsive and all CPUs
>>>>>>>> are stuck in stop_machine. Sometimes it recovers on its own from the
>>>>>>>> hang and then RCU immediately gives stall warnings. It takes 1.5 hour
>>>>>>>> to reproduce and sometimes never happens for several hours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It appears related to CPU hotplug since gdb showed me most of the CPUs
>>>>>>>> are spinning in multi_cpu_stop() / stop machine after the hang.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, we do see lots of soft lockups with multi_cpu_stop() in the backtrace,
>>>>>>> but not with v5.15.y but with v5.4.y. The actual hang is in stop_machine_yield().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting. It looks similar as far as the stack dump in gdb goes, here are
>>>>>> the stacks I dumped with the hang I referred to:
>>>>>> https://paste.debian.net/1288308/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That link gives me "Entry not found".
>>>>
>>>> Yeah that was weird. Here it is again: https://pastebin.com/raw/L3nv1kH2
>>>
>>> I found a couple of crash reports from chromeos-5.10, one of them complaining
>>> about RCU issues. I sent you links via IM. Nothing from 5.15 or later, though.
>>
>> Is the crash showing the eternally refiring timer fixed by this commit?
>>
>> 53e87e3cdc15 ("timers/nohz: Last resort update jiffies on nohz_full IRQ entry")
> 
> Ah I was just replying, I have been seeing really good results after applying
> the following 3 commits since yesterday:
> 
> 53e87e3cdc15 ("timers/nohz: Last resort update jiffies on nohz_full IRQ entry")
> 5417ddc1cf1f ("timers/nohz: Switch to ONESHOT_STOPPED in the low-res handler when the tick is stopped")
> a1ff03cd6fb9 ("tick: Detect and fix jiffies update stall")
> 

Would those also apply to v5.10.y, or just 5.15.y ?

Thanks,
Guenter

> 5417ddc1cf1f also mentioned a "tick storm" which is exactly what I was
> seeing.
> 
> I did a lengthy test and everything is looking good. I'll send these out to
> the stable list.
> 
> thanks,
> 
>   - Joel
> 
> 

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ