lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <719602ec-c9fc-4a72-9585-d50595cb6dca@amd.com>
Date:   Fri, 18 Aug 2023 18:57:57 -0500
From:   "Limonciello, Mario" <mario.limonciello@....com>
To:     Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>
Cc:     linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@...mhuis.info>,
        charles.d.prestopine@...el.com, rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com,
        len.brown@...el.com, stable@...r.kernel.org,
        Todd Brandt <todd.e.brandt@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: Don't make vendor check required for probe



On 8/18/2023 6:44 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri Aug 18, 2023 at 10:38 PM UTC, Limonciello, Mario wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/18/2023 5:07 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>>> On Fri Aug 18, 2023 at 6:15 PM UTC, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>> The vendor check introduced by commit 554b841d4703 ("tpm: Disable RNG for
>>>> all AMD fTPMs") doesn't work properly on Intel fTPM.  The TPM doesn't reply
>>>> at bootup and returns back the command code.
>>>
>>> Is this reproducible with any production hardware? You are stating it
>>> as it was reproducible categorically with any Intel fTPM.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it's affecting production hardware too.
>> Someone came to the kernel bugzilla and reported a regression on 6.4.11
>> on a Lenovo Intel laptop as well.
> 
> Now the description says that cateogrically all Intel fTPM's fail.

According to Todd this change caused 5 *different* reference Intel 
systems all to fail.  I know they're not production hardware, but still..

> 
> I asked for the laptop model in the bugzilla bug, which should be put to
> the commit description later on (hopefully with a snippet of klog
> transcript). This commit cannot be applied as it is at the moment, even
> if it turned out to be a legit fix.
> 
>>>> As this isn't crucial for anything but AMD fTPM and AMD fTPM works, throw
>>>> away the error code to let Intel fTPM continue to work.
>>>>
>>>> Cc: stable@...r.kernel.org
>>>> Fixes: 554b841d4703 ("tpm: Disable RNG for all AMD fTPMs")
>>>
>>> It does make sense not to exercise this outside of AMD CPus but since
>>> there is no production hardware failing, it cannot be categorized as a
>>> bug fix.
>>
>> See above (and also kernel bugzilla).
>>
>>>
>>>> Reported-by: Todd Brandt <todd.e.brandt@...el.com>
>>>> Closes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217804
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 3 +--
>>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
>>>> index 9eb1a18590123..b0e9931fe436c 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
>>>> @@ -472,8 +472,7 @@ static int crb_check_flags(struct tpm_chip *chip)
>>>>    	if (ret)
>>>>    		return ret;
>>>>    
>>>> -	ret = tpm2_get_tpm_pt(chip, TPM2_PT_MANUFACTURER, &val, NULL);
>>>> -	if (ret)
>>>> +	if (tpm2_get_tpm_pt(chip, TPM2_PT_MANUFACTURER, &val, NULL))
>>>>    		goto release;
>>>
>>> It would be better not to exercise a potentially failing code path at
>>> all. This initiates full transaction with the TPM.
>>
>> So why does a full transaction not work in this case?
> 
> It makes absolutely zero sense to send a message to a TPM just to know
> that you are on AMD CPU, right?
> 
> E.g. you could check if boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_AMD right
> in the beginning of this function.
> 

You couldn't replace the whole function with this check.

If you apply it to everything on an AMD system you catch too much.  You 
need to know it's specifically an AMD fTPM to avoid tripping the stutter 
bug.  Pluton is fine, dTPMs are fine too.

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ