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Date:   Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:35:36 +0200
From:   Jerome Forissier <jerome.forissier@...aro.org>
To:     Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@...aro.org>,
        Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@...aro.org>
Cc:     Shyam Saini <shyamsaini@...ux.microsoft.com>,
        Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mmc@...r.kernel.org,
        op-tee@...ts.trustedfirmware.org, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org,
        Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@...aro.org>,
        Tomas Winkler <tomas.winkler@...el.com>,
        Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@...aro.org>,
        Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>,
        Tyler Hicks <code@...icks.com>,
        "Srivatsa S . Bhat" <srivatsa@...il.mit.edu>,
        Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>,
        Allen Pais <apais@...ux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/1] rpmb: add Replay Protected Memory Block (RPMB)
 driver



On 8/21/23 13:18, Jens Wiklander wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 12:03 PM Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@...aro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 15:19, Jerome Forissier
>> <jerome.forissier@...aro.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/17/23 01:31, Shyam Saini wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ulf,
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 at 03:41, Shyam Saini
>>>>> <shyamsaini@...ux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@...aro.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [This is patch 1 from [1] Alex's submission and this RPMB layer was
>>>>>> originally proposed by [2]Thomas Winkler ]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A number of storage technologies support a specialised hardware
>>>>>> partition designed to be resistant to replay attacks. The underlying
>>>>>> HW protocols differ but the operations are common. The RPMB partition
>>>>>> cannot be accessed via standard block layer, but by a set of specific
>>>>>> commands: WRITE, READ, GET_WRITE_COUNTER, and PROGRAM_KEY. Such a
>>>>>> partition provides authenticated and replay protected access, hence
>>>>>> suitable as a secure storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The initial aim of this patch is to provide a simple RPMB Driver which
>>>>>> can be accessed by Linux's optee driver to facilitate fast-path for
>>>>>> RPMB access to optee OS(secure OS) during the boot time. [1] Currently,
>>>>>> Optee OS relies on user-tee supplicant to access eMMC RPMB partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A TEE device driver can claim the RPMB interface, for example, via
>>>>>> class_interface_register(). The RPMB driver provides a series of
>>>>>> operations for interacting with the device.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't quite follow this. More exactly, how will the TEE driver know
>>>>> what RPMB device it should use?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have complete code to for this yet, but i think OP-TEE driver
>>>> should register with RPMB subsystem and then we can have eMMC/UFS/NVMe
>>>> specific implementation for RPMB operations.
>>>>
>>>> Linux optee driver can handle RPMB frames and pass it to RPMB subsystem
>>>>
>>
>> It would be better to have this OP-TEE use case fully implemented. So
>> that we can justify it as a valid user for this proposed RPMB
>> subsystem. If you are looking for any further suggestions then please
>> let us know.
> 
> +1
> 
>>
>>>> [1] U-Boot has mmc specific implementation
>>>>
>>>> I think OPTEE-OS has CFG_RPMB_FS_DEV_ID option
>>>> CFG_RPMB_FS_DEV_ID=1 for /dev/mmcblk1rpmb,
>>>
>>> Correct. Note that tee-supplicant will ignore this device ID if --rmb-cid
>>> is given and use the specified RPMB instead (the CID is a non-ambiguous way
>>> to identify a RPMB device).
>>>
>>>> but in case if a
>>>> system has multiple RPMB devices such as UFS/eMMC/NVMe, one them
>>>> should be declared as secure storage and optee should access that one only.
>>>
>>> Indeed, that would be an equivalent of tee-supplicant's --rpmb-cid.
>>>
>>>> Sumit, do you have suggestions for this ?
>>>
>>
>> I would suggest having an OP-TEE secure DT property that would provide
>> the RPMB CID which is allocated to the secure world.
> 
> Another option is for OP-TEE to iterate over all RPMBs with a
> programmed key and test if the key OP-TEE would use works. That should
> avoid the problem of provisioning a device-unique secure DTB. I'd
> expect that the RPMB key is programmed by a trusted provisioning tool
> since allowing OP-TEE to program the RPMB key has never been secure,
> not unless the OP-TEE binary is rollback protected.

+1 if we can assume the same key won't be used for several devices, which
is probably reasonable.

> 
> Cheers,
> Jens
> 
>>
>> -Sumit
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerome

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