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Message-ID: <777f7688-34d1-4b1e-9187-6f605fb8e80c@notapiano>
Date:   Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:52:09 -0400
From:   Nícolas F. R. A. Prado 
        <nfraprado@...labora.com>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Cc:     Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
        <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>, kernel@...labora.com,
        Amit Kucheria <amitk@...nel.org>,
        Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-pm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thermal/core: Don't update trip points inside the
 hysteresis range

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:57:59PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:25 AM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
> <nfraprado@...labora.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 11:10:27PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 7:15 PM Nícolas F. R. A. Prado
> > > <nfraprado@...labora.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When searching for the trip points that need to be set, the nearest trip
> > > > point's temperature is used for the high trip, while the nearest trip
> > > > point's temperature minus the hysteresis is used for the low trip. The
> > > > issue with this logic is that when the current temperature is inside a
> > > > trip point's hysteresis range, both high and low trips will come from
> > > > the same trip point. As a consequence instability can still occur like
> > > > this:
> > > > * the temperature rises slightly and enters the hysteresis range of a
> > > >   trip point
> > > > * polling happens and updates the trip points to the hysteresis range
> > > > * the temperature falls slightly, exiting the hysteresis range, crossing
> > > >   the trip point and triggering an IRQ, the trip points are updated
> > > > * repeat
> > > >
> > > > So even though the current hysteresis implementation prevents
> > > > instability from happening due to IRQs triggering on the same
> > > > temperature value, both ways, it doesn't prevent it from happening due
> > > > to an IRQ on one way and polling on the other.
> > > >
> > > > To properly implement a hysteresis behavior, when inside the hysteresis
> > > > range, don't update the trip points. This way, the previously set trip
> > > > points will stay in effect, which will in a way remember the previous
> > > > state (if the temperature signal came from above or below the range) and
> > > > therefore have the right trip point already set. The exception is if
> > > > there was no previous trip point set, in which case a previous state
> > > > doesn't exist, and so it's sensible to allow the hysteresis range as
> > > > trip points.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Nícolas F. R. A. Prado <nfraprado@...labora.com>
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > >  drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++--
> > > >  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c b/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c
> > > > index 907f3a4d7bc8..c386ac5d8bad 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c
> > > > @@ -57,6 +57,7 @@ void __thermal_zone_set_trips(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
> > > >  {
> > > >         struct thermal_trip trip;
> > > >         int low = -INT_MAX, high = INT_MAX;
> > > > +       int low_trip_id = -1, high_trip_id = -2;
> > > >         int i, ret;
> > > >
> > > >         lockdep_assert_held(&tz->lock);
> > > > @@ -73,18 +74,34 @@ void __thermal_zone_set_trips(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
> > > >
> > > >                 trip_low = trip.temperature - trip.hysteresis;
> > > >
> > > > -               if (trip_low < tz->temperature && trip_low > low)
> > > > +               if (trip_low < tz->temperature && trip_low > low) {
> > > >                         low = trip_low;
> > > > +                       low_trip_id = i;
> > > > +               }
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think I get the idea, but wouldn't a similar effect be achieved by
> > > adding an "else" here?
> >
> > No. That would only fix the problem in one direction, namely, when the
> > temperature entered the hysteresis range from above. But when the temperature
> > entered the range from below, we'd need to check the high threshold first to
> > achieve the same result.
> >
> > The way I've implemented here is the simplest I could think of that works for
> > both directions.
> 
> Well, what about the replacement patch below (untested)?

Yes, the patch below should work just as well as the one I've proposed. Do you
want me to send a v2 with this code, or do you want to send this patch yourself?

I'll also give it some testing.

Thanks,
Nícolas

> 
> ---
>  drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c |   19 +++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> Index: linux-pm/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-pm.orig/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c
> +++ linux-pm/drivers/thermal/thermal_trip.c
> @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ void __thermal_zone_set_trips(struct the
>  {
>      struct thermal_trip trip;
>      int low = -INT_MAX, high = INT_MAX;
> +    bool same_trip = false;
>      int i, ret;
> 
>      lockdep_assert_held(&tz->lock);
> @@ -63,6 +64,7 @@ void __thermal_zone_set_trips(struct the
>          return;
> 
>      for (i = 0; i < tz->num_trips; i++) {
> +        bool low_set = false;
>          int trip_low;
> 
>          ret = __thermal_zone_get_trip(tz, i , &trip);
> @@ -71,18 +73,31 @@ void __thermal_zone_set_trips(struct the
> 
>          trip_low = trip.temperature - trip.hysteresis;
> 
> -        if (trip_low < tz->temperature && trip_low > low)
> +        if (trip_low < tz->temperature && trip_low > low) {
>              low = trip_low;
> +            low_set = true;
> +            same_trip = false;
> +        }
> 
>          if (trip.temperature > tz->temperature &&
> -            trip.temperature < high)
> +            trip.temperature < high) {
>              high = trip.temperature;
> +            same_trip = low_set;
> +        }
>      }
> 
>      /* No need to change trip points */
>      if (tz->prev_low_trip == low && tz->prev_high_trip == high)
>          return;
> 
> +    /*
> +     * If "high" and "low" are the same, skip the change unless this is the
> +     * first time.
> +     */
> +    if (same_trip && (tz->prev_low_trip != -INT_MAX ||
> +        tz->prev_high_trip != INT_MAX))
> +        return;
> +
>      tz->prev_low_trip = low;
>      tz->prev_high_trip = high;

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