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Message-ID: <CAPnjgZ1U+Gy0Q_Sc63p0ixkWF9iJEEBLhV8-N9-sh7OGNy-OmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 6 Sep 2023 08:53:44 -0600
From:   Simon Glass <sjg@...omium.org>
To:     Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
Cc:     Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        Maximilian Brune <maximilian.brune@...ements.com>,
        ron minnich <rminnich@...il.com>,
        Tom Rini <trini@...sulko.com>,
        Dhaval Sharma <dhaval@...osinc.com>,
        U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@...ts.denx.de>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Yunhui Cui <cuiyunhui@...edance.com>,
        linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, Gua Guo <gua.guo@...el.com>,
        Lean Sheng Tan <sheng.tan@...ements.com>,
        Guo Dong <guo.dong@...el.com>,
        lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Chiu Chasel <chasel.chiu@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/4] schemas: Add some common reserved-memory usages

Hi Rob, Ard,

On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 08:34, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 4:44 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 01:18, Simon Glass <sjg@...omium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Devicetree specification skips over handling of a logical view of
> > > the memory map, pointing users to the UEFI specification.
> > >
> > > It is common to split firmware into 'Platform Init', which does the
> > > initial hardware setup and a "Payload" which selects the OS to be booted.
> > > Thus an handover interface is required between these two pieces.
> > >
> > > Where UEFI boot-time services are not available, but UEFI firmware is
> > > present on either side of this interface, information about memory usage
> > > and attributes must be presented to the "Payload" in some form.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think the UEFI references are needed or helpful here.
> >
> > > This aims to provide an small schema addition for this mapping.
> > >
> > > For now, no attempt is made to create an exhaustive binding, so there are
> > > some example types listed. More can be added later.
> > >
> > > The compatible string is not included, since the node name is enough to
> > > indicate the purpose of a node, as per the existing reserved-memory
> > > schema.
>
> Node names reflect the 'class', but not what's specifically in the
> node. So really, all reserved-memory nodes should have the same name,
> but that ship already sailed for existing users. 'compatible' is the
> right thing here. As to what the node name should be, well, we haven't
> defined that. I think we just used 'memory' on some platforms.

OK

>
> > > This binding does not include a binding for the memory 'attribute'
> > > property, defined by EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.GetMemoryMap(). It may be useful
> > > to have that as well, but perhaps not as a bit mask.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@...omium.org>
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Changes in v5:
> > > - Drop the memory-map node (should have done that in v4)
> > > - Tidy up schema a bit
> > >
> > > Changes in v4:
> > > - Make use of the reserved-memory node instead of creating a new one
> > >
> > > Changes in v3:
> > > - Reword commit message again
> > > - cc a lot more people, from the FFI patch
> > > - Split out the attributes into the /memory nodes
> > >
> > > Changes in v2:
> > > - Reword commit message
> > >
> > >  .../reserved-memory/common-reserved.yaml      | 53 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 53 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 dtschema/schemas/reserved-memory/common-reserved.yaml
> > >
> > > diff --git a/dtschema/schemas/reserved-memory/common-reserved.yaml b/dtschema/schemas/reserved-memory/common-reserved.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 0000000..d1b466b
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/dtschema/schemas/reserved-memory/common-reserved.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/reserved-memory/common-reserved.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Common memory reservations
> > > +
> > > +description: |
> > > +  Specifies that the reserved memory region can be used for the purpose
> > > +  indicated by its node name.
> > > +
> > > +  Clients may reuse this reserved memory if they understand what it is for.
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > +  - Simon Glass <sjg@...omium.org>
> > > +
> > > +allOf:
> > > +  - $ref: reserved-memory.yaml
> > > +
> > > +properties:
> > > +  $nodename:
> > > +    enum:
> > > +      - acpi-reclaim
> > > +      - acpi-nvs
> > > +      - boot-code
> > > +      - boot-data
> > > +      - runtime-code
> > > +      - runtime-data
> > > +
> >
> > These types are used by firmware to describe the nature of certain
> > memory regions to the OS. Boot code and data can be discarded, as well
> > as ACPI reclaim after its contents have been consumed. Runtime code
> > and data need to be mapped for runtime features to work.
> >
> > When one firmware phase communicates the purpose of a certain memory
> > reservation to another, it is typically not limited to whether its
> > needs to be preserved and when it needs to be mapped (and with which
> > attributes). I'd expect a memory reservation appearing under this node
> > to have a clearly defined purpose, and the subsequent phases need to
> > be able to discover this information.
> >
> > For example, a communication buffer for secure<->non-secure
> > communication or a page with spin tables used by PSCI. None of the
> > proposed labels are appropriate for this, and I'd much rather have a
> > compatible string or some other property that clarifies the nature in
> > a more suitable way. Note that 'no-map' already exists to indicate
> > that the CPU should not map this memory unless it does so for the
> > specific purpose that the reservation was made for.
>
> I agree. I think compatible is the better approach. Some property like
> 'discard' may not be sufficient information if the OS needs to consume
> the region first and then discard it. Better to state exactly what's
> there and then the OS can imply the rest.

OK, so what sort of compatible strings?

How about:
"acpi-reclaim" - holds ACPI tables; memory can be reclaimed once the
tables are read and no-longer needed
"boot-code" - holds boot code; memory can be reclaimed once the boot
phase is complete
"runtime-code" - holds runtime code; memory can be reclaimed only if
this code will not be used from that point

etc. We can then have more specific compatibles, like:

"psci-spin-table" - holds PSCI spin tables

so you could do:

compatible = "runtime-code", "psci-spin-table";

Regards,
Simon

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