linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] XArray for 6.6

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Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiaA0JL0TshZpQOwRoPsmRT7xKoHniv8gkdTdn+LF3oXA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 8 Sep 2023 21:57:55 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] XArray for 6.6

On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 10:44, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> wrote:
>
> I had to update the expiration on my signing key.  I don't know if you
> pay attention to that, or whether my attempts to get my updated expiration
> date into the system were successful.

I'm sadly much too used (resigned?) to pgp keys being expired, so I
mostly ignore it, apart from the occasional internal swearing at
people who thought it was ever a good idea.

So exactly because the pgp key server infrastructure works so badly
these days, may I suggest either getting rid of expiration dates, or
at least putting them *far* in the future?

Honestly, the argument for expiration dates was never very strong, and
with how badly updates work, the constant low-grade annoyance from
them isn't worth it.

Because no, a "gpg --refresh" certainly did *not* get any expiration
day updates here. So your key does indeed show that it is expired for
me.

Which just should drive home how #$!* useless those expiration dates
are. Really.

So again - please stop expiring your keys, at least in any foreseeable
near future. The pgp key infrastructure isn't set up for it.

Make the expiration date go away, or make it a decade or two in the
future, and maybe it will show as active and valid some day.

               Linus