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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 06:37:38 +0200
From: Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: x86@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, David.Kaplan@....com,
Andrew.Cooper3@...rix.com, jpoimboe@...nel.org,
gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, nik.borisov@...e.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/11] x86/alternatives: Simplify ALTERNATIVE_n()
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:44:41AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> OK, I think objtool really does need the hunk you took out.
>
> The problem there is that we're having to create ORC data that is valid
> for all possible alternatives -- there is only one ORC table (unless we
> go dynamically patch the ORC table too, but so far we've managed to
> avoid doing that).
>
> The constraint we have is that for every address the ORC data must match
> between the alternatives, but because x86 is a variable length
> instruction encoding we can (and do) play games. As long as the
> instruction addresses do not line up, they can have different ORC data.
>
> One place where this matters is the tail, if we consider this a string
> of single byte nops, that forces a bunch of ORC state to match. So what
> we do is that we assume the tail is a single large NOP, this way we get
> minimal overlap / ORC conflicts.
>
> As such, we need to know the max length when constructing the
> alternatives, otherwise you get short alternatives jumping to somewhere
> in the middle of the actual range and well, see above.
Lemme make sure I understand this correctly. We have a three-way
alternative in our example with the descrptors saying this:
feat: 11*32+15, old: (entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x59/0xd8 (ffffffff81c000d1) len: 5), repl: (ffffffff833a362b, len: 5)
feat: 3*32+21, old: (entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x59/0xd8 (ffffffff81c000d1) len: 5), repl: (ffffffff833a3630, len: 5)
feat: 11*32+19, old: (entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x59/0xd8 (ffffffff81c000d1) len: 16), repl: (ffffffff833a3635, len: 16)
i.e., the address to patch each time is ffffffff81c000d1, and the length
is different - 5, 5 and 16.
So that ORC data is tracking the starting address and the length?
I guess I don't fully understand the "middle of the actual range" thing
because you don't really have a middle - you have the starting address
and a length.
Or are you saying that the differing length would cause ORC conflicts?
In any case, I guess I could extend your commit with what we've figured
out in this thread and send a new version of what I think it should look
like and I can start testing it on my pile of hw next week, when I get
back...
Thx.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
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