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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:42:57 -0700
From: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
To: Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>,
linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Yang Jihong <yangjihong1@...wei.com>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] perf evlist: Avoid frequency mode for the dummy event
On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:46 PM Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 9:10 PM Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dummy events are created with an attribute where the period and freq
> > are zero. evsel__config will then see the uninitialized values and
> > initialize them in evsel__default_freq_period. As fequency mode is
> > used by default the dummy event would be set to use frequency
> > mode. However, this has no effect on the dummy event but does cause
> > unnecessary timers/interrupts. Avoid this overhead by setting the
> > period to 1 for dummy events.
> >
> > evlist__add_aux_dummy calls evlist__add_dummy then sets freq=0 and
> > period=1. This isn't necessary after this change and so the setting is
> > removed.
> >
> > From Stephane:
> >
> > The dummy event is not counting anything. It is used to collect mmap
> > records and avoid a race condition during the synthesize mmap phase of
> > perf record. As such, it should not cause any overhead during active
> > profiling. Yet, it did. Because of a bug the dummy event was
> > programmed as a sampling event in frequency mode. Events in that mode
> > incur more kernel overheads because on timer tick, the kernel has to
> > look at the number of samples for each event and potentially adjust
> > the sampling period to achieve the desired frequency. The dummy event
> > was therefore adding a frequency event to task and ctx contexts we may
> > otherwise not have any, e.g., perf record -a -e
> > cpu/event=0x3c,period=10000000/. On each timer tick the
> > perf_adjust_freq_unthr_context() is invoked and if ctx->nr_freq is
> > non-zero, then the kernel will loop over ALL the events of the context
> > looking for frequency mode ones. In doing, so it locks the context,
> > and enable/disable the PMU of each hw event. If all the events of the
> > context are in period mode, the kernel will have to traverse the list for
> > nothing incurring overhead. The overhead is multiplied by a very large
> > factor when this happens in a guest kernel. There is no need for the
> > dummy event to be in frequency mode, it does not count anything and
> > therefore should not cause extra overhead for no reason.
> >
> > Fixes: 5bae0250237f ("perf evlist: Introduce perf_evlist__new_dummy constructor")
> > Reported-by: Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
> > ---
> > tools/perf/util/evlist.c | 5 +++--
> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/evlist.c b/tools/perf/util/evlist.c
> > index 25c3ebe2c2f5..e36da58522ef 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/util/evlist.c
> > +++ b/tools/perf/util/evlist.c
> > @@ -251,6 +251,9 @@ static struct evsel *evlist__dummy_event(struct evlist *evlist)
> > .type = PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE,
> > .config = PERF_COUNT_SW_DUMMY,
> > .size = sizeof(attr), /* to capture ABI version */
> > + /* Avoid frequency mode for dummy events to avoid associated timers. */
> > + .freq = 0,
> > + .sample_period = 1,
> > };
> >
> > return evsel__new_idx(&attr, evlist->core.nr_entries);
> > @@ -277,8 +280,6 @@ struct evsel *evlist__add_aux_dummy(struct evlist *evlist, bool system_wide)
> > evsel->core.attr.exclude_kernel = 1;
> > evsel->core.attr.exclude_guest = 1;
> > evsel->core.attr.exclude_hv = 1;
> > - evsel->core.attr.freq = 0;
> > - evsel->core.attr.sample_period = 1;
> > evsel->core.system_wide = system_wide;
> > evsel->no_aux_samples = true;
> > evsel->name = strdup("dummy:u");
> > --
> > 2.42.0.459.ge4e396fd5e-goog
> >
>
> Thank you very much for the change. I have one quick question about
> the PMU unthrottling logic. When I am looking into the function
> perf_adjust_freq_unthr_context(), I see the loop with PMU stop and
> start in each iteration. Is there a good way to avoid this PMU reset
> operation while quickly figuring out the event in frequency mode?
Agreed. I think before the pmu_disable could be avoided for this condition:
```
if (event->hw.interrupts != MAX_INTERRUPTS &&
(!event->attr.freq || !event->attr.sample_freq))
continue;
```
Fixing up the event stop/start looks harder.
Thanks,
Ian
> Thanks.
> -Mingwei
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