linux-kernel - Re: Arches that don't support PREEMPT

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Message-ID: <87jzsmueho.ffs@tglx>
Date:   Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:53:07 +0200
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:     John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@...sik.fu-berlin.de>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
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        Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@...assic.park.msu.ru>,
        Matt Turner <mattst88@...il.com>, linux-alpha@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Arches that don't support PREEMPT

On Tue, Sep 19 2023 at 11:52, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 11:37, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
>>
>> We could simply leave the cond_resched() around but defined as nops for
>> everything but the "nostalgia club" to keep them from having any regressions.
>
> I doubt the nostalgia club cares about some latencies (that are
> usually only noticeable under extreme loads anyway).
>
> And if they do, maybe that would make somebody sit down and look into
> doing it right.
>
> So I think keeping it around would actually be both useless and
> counter-productive.

Amen to that.