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Date:   Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:56:24 -0400
From:   Zi Yan <ziy@...dia.com>
To:     Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>
Cc:     John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@....com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "\"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)\"" <willy@...radead.org>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
        "\"Yin, Fengwei\"" <fengwei.yin@...el.com>,
        Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...ux.alibaba.com>,
        Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@...weicloud.com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Rohan Puri <rohan.puri15@...il.com>,
        Adam Manzanares <a.manzanares@...sung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Enable >0 order folio memory compaction


On 20 Sep 2023, at 23:14, Luis Chamberlain wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 07:05:25PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>> On 9/20/23 18:16, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 05:55:51PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
>>>> Are there other known recipes test help test this stuff?
>>>
>>> You know, it got me wondering... since how memory fragmented a system
>>> might be by just running fstests, because, well, we already have
>>> that automated in kdevops and it also has LBS support for all the
>>> different large block sizes on 4k sector size. So if we just had a
>>> way to "measure" or "quantify" memory fragmentation with a score,
>>> we could just tally up how we did after 4 hours of testing for each
>>> block size with a set of memory on the guest / target node / cloud
>>> system.
>>>
>>>    Luis
>>
>> I thought about it, and here is one possible way to quantify
>> fragmentation with just a single number. Take this with some
>> skepticism because it is a first draft sort of thing:
>>
>> a) Let BLOCKS be the number of 4KB pages (or more generally, then number
>> of smallest sized objects allowed) in the area.
>>
>> b) Let FRAGS be the number of free *or* allocated chunks (no need to
>> consider the size of each, as that is automatically taken into
>> consideration).
>>
>> Then:
>>       fragmentation percentage = (FRAGS / BLOCKS) * 100%
>>
>> This has some nice properties. For one thing, it's easy to calculate.
>> For another, it can discern between these cases:
>>
>> Assume a 12-page area:
>>
>> Case 1) 6 pages allocated allocated unevenly:
>>
>> 1 page allocated | 1 page free | 1 page allocated | 5 pages free | 4 pages allocated
>>
>> fragmentation = (5 FRAGS / 12 BLOCKS) * 100% = 41.7%
>>
>> Case 2) 6 pages allocated evenly: every other page is allocated:
>>
>> fragmentation = (12 FRAGS / 12 BLOCKS) * 100% = 100%
>
> Thanks! Will try this!
>
> BTW stress-ng might also be a nice way to do other pathalogical things here.
>
>   Luis

Thanks. These are all good performance tests and a good fragmentation metric.
I would like to get it working properly first. As I mentioned in another email,
there will be tons of exploration to do to improve >0 folio memory compaction
with the consideration of:

1. the distribution of free pages,
2. the goal of compaction, e.g., to allocate a single order folio or reduce
the overall fragmentation level,
3. the runtime cost of compaction, and more.
My patchset aims to provide a reasonably working compaction functionality.


In terms of correctness testing, what I have done locally is to:

1. have a XFS partition,
2. create files with various sizes from 4KB to 2MB,
3. mmap each of these files to use one folio at the file size,
4. get the physical addresses of these folios,
5. trigger global memory compaction via sysctl,
6. read the physical addresses of these folios again.

--
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
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